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  • canefanC canefan

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

    Would meet the (understandable) NZR requirement of continuity while being a pretty fresh broom with a proven track record at Test level.

    Before 2007 we had a slash and burn mentality. Continuity was the right decision then. But this isn't 2007, the GH/Shag coaching tree has outlived its time. Burn it all down

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    @canefan said in Foster must go:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

    Would meet the (understandable) NZR requirement of continuity while being a pretty fresh broom with a proven track record at Test level.

    Before 2007 we had a slash and burn mentality. Continuity was the right decision then. But this isn't 2007, the GH/Shag coaching tree has outlived its time. Burn it all down

    Foster was the only part of the GH/Shag coaching tree that still existed at the end of 2019 as far as I can see. Arguably the tree is sprouting again with Cron coming back in as a mentor.

    But its less about the tree and more about cutting off the dead wood. At the end of 2019 the old wood sprouted legs and walked away leaving the NZRFU with the dead wood. Which they planted and have reaped the fruit of their decision.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      We all know Foster is staying as HC to after the WC,NZR are not going to admit their big mistake of reappointing Foster after the NH tour.

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      @Chris said in Foster must go:

      We all know Foster is staying as HC to after the WC,NZR are not going to admit their big mistake of reappointing Foster after the NH tour.

      I think if we lose the two tests in SA, which is highly likely, nothing will change. However a loss of the bled might be enough, as that would mean losing both to Oz including Eden park. I think if we keep the bled we're stuck with fidget until RWC, even if he loses every test in the lead up until then

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      • MN5M MN5

        I blame Jordies haircut most of all

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        @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

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        • M Machpants

          @Chris said in Foster must go:

          We all know Foster is staying as HC to after the WC,NZR are not going to admit their big mistake of reappointing Foster after the NH tour.

          I think if we lose the two tests in SA, which is highly likely, nothing will change. However a loss of the bled might be enough, as that would mean losing both to Oz including Eden park. I think if we keep the bled we're stuck with fidget until RWC, even if he loses every test in the lead up until then

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          @Machpants said in Foster must go:

          @Chris said in Foster must go:

          We all know Foster is staying as HC to after the WC,NZR are not going to admit their big mistake of reappointing Foster after the NH tour.

          I think if we lose the two tests in SA, which is highly likely, nothing will change. However a loss of the bled might be enough, as that would mean losing both to Oz including Eden park. I think if we keep the bled we're stuck with fidget until RWC, even if he loses every test in the lead up until then

          Fucking depressing.

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          • No QuarterN No Quarter

            @Kruse said in Foster must go:

            @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

            @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

            @Duluth said in Foster must go:

            The realistic option is Schmidt

            He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.

            Does he want a head coach role though?

            @Duluth I know you can't answer that but I'm not convinced he wants a head coach role, so we are either stuck with Foster or we go to Razor with Schmidt taking the reigns short term. I'd love for Schimidt to take over for what it's worth.

            reins
            Sorry - but I've noticed it a couple of times now...

            When I've been drinking most of what I type on my phone is the thing that predicts the word I'm gonna type below the keyboard so if it looks roughly right I hit the word and move on

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            @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

            @Kruse said in Foster must go:

            @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

            @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

            @Duluth said in Foster must go:

            The realistic option is Schmidt

            He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.

            Does he want a head coach role though?

            @Duluth I know you can't answer that but I'm not convinced he wants a head coach role, so we are either stuck with Foster or we go to Razor with Schmidt taking the reigns short term. I'd love for Schimidt to take over for what it's worth.

            reins
            Sorry - but I've noticed it a couple of times now...

            When I've been drinking most of what I type on my phone is the thing that predicts the word I'm gonna type below the keyboard so if it looks roughly right I hit the word and move on

            Fair enough. When I've been drinking, I get sensitive about the English language and the fucking DIS-RISPUKT shown by goddamn imbeciles and so-called "smart keyboards"/"auto-checkers".
            If I ever end up working in Silicon-Valley, and meet some fluffy-bunny who works for "Grammarly" - I'll be cutting a fluffybunny.

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              So it's been brought up on the roar, there's a presser tomorrow 9 am, is that standard? I think it is but please tell me it's not

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              • M Machpants

                So it's been brought up on the roar, there's a presser tomorrow 9 am, is that standard? I think it is but please tell me it's not

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                @Machpants said in Foster must go:

                So it's been brought up on the roar, there's a presser tomorrow 9 am, is that standard? I think it is but please tell me it's not

                🙏🙏🙏🙏

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                  Will we lose to SA? I mean they just lost to Wales at home so it sounds like they aren't exactly hot shit this year, not that I've watched. And if we win that's more than enough for NZR to claim we are "building towards the RWC", which is so offensive as an AB fan when we are giving up 100+ year records.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @Tim said in Foster must go:

                    @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                    I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                    He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                    @Tim said in Foster must go:

                    @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                    I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                    He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                    Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

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                      I wonder if losing the Bledisloe will be enough to move the mediocre Mark Robinson in to action, or will it have to be the Quarter Final exit in the end...

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        Will we lose to SA? I mean they just lost to Wales at home so it sounds like they aren't exactly hot shit this year, not that I've watched. And if we win that's more than enough for NZR to claim we are "building towards the RWC", which is so offensive as an AB fan when we are giving up 100+ year records.

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                        @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                        Will we lose to SA? I mean they just lost to Wales at home so it sounds like they aren't exactly hot shit this year, not that I've watched. And if we win that's more than enough for NZR to claim we are "building towards the RWC", which is so offensive as an AB fan when we are giving up 100+ year records.

                        Of course we will, it was a total b team that lost by a point

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                        • BartManB BartMan

                          @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

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                          @BartMan said in Foster must go:

                          @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

                          The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

                          Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            Will we lose to SA? I mean they just lost to Wales at home so it sounds like they aren't exactly hot shit this year, not that I've watched. And if we win that's more than enough for NZR to claim we are "building towards the RWC", which is so offensive as an AB fan when we are giving up 100+ year records.

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                            canefan
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                            @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

                            Will we lose to SA? I mean they just lost to Wales at home so it sounds like they aren't exactly hot shit this year, not that I've watched. And if we win that's more than enough for NZR to claim we are "building towards the RWC", which is so offensive as an AB fan when we are giving up 100+ year records.

                            Foster would give a bollock for a test win right now

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                            • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                              @Tim said in Foster must go:

                              @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                              I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                              He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                              Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

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                              mofitzy_
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                              @Jailbreak7
                              According to some posters, he should be happy to be Fosters assistant and if he doesn't accept being an assistant then he doesn't deserve the top spot.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @BartMan said in Foster must go:

                                @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

                                The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

                                Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

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                                @MN5 said in Foster must go:

                                Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

                                He seems happily ensconced on Twitter these days.

                                Great to see @BartMan back - now he just needs to stay logged in 🙂

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                                • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                  @MN5 said in Foster must go:

                                  Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

                                  He seems happily ensconced on Twitter these days.

                                  Great to see @BartMan back - now he just needs to stay logged in 🙂

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                                  Victor Meldrew
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                                  @Donsteppa said in Foster must go:

                                  @MN5 said in Foster must go:

                                  Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

                                  He seems happily ensconced on Twitter these days.

                                  Great to see @BartMan back - now he just needs to stay logged in 🙂

                                  A @Bartman appearance is as rare as a good AB performance these day...

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                                  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                    @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                                    I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                                    He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                                    Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

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                                    canefan
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                                    @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                    @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                                    I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                                    He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                                    Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                                    Jesus?

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                                      I pray we lose to SA and the Bled. Because the small sliver of hope is that it's enough to dump foster and go into the RWC with some optimism (justified or not).

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                        @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                                        I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                                        He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                                        Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                                        Jesus?

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                                        Victor Meldrew
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                                        @canefan said in Foster must go:

                                        @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                        @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                                        I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                                        He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                                        Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                                        Jesus?

                                        Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @canefan said in Foster must go:

                                          @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                          @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                                          I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                                          He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                                          Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                                          Jesus?

                                          Jesus Crobinson. He's a saviour according to some.

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                                          canefan
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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                          @canefan said in Foster must go:

                                          @Jailbreak7 said in Foster must go:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

                                          @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew Do you think he wants to be a head coach? He'd be my pick if he does.

                                          I haven't a clue. But who wouldn't want to coach the All Blacks and not just be a mentor? Persuade him to take over until RWC2023 for starters

                                          He'd be a safe pair of hands and then be able hand over to Rennie, Jesus, Joseph or another assistant.

                                          Like the thought of Jesus being an assistant

                                          Jesus?

                                          Jesus Crobinson.

                                          Thought so. I wouldn't want to be Fozz's assistant either. What does he have to gain, how much of himself can he tangibly give to the team without being the HC? Fozz is beyond redemption and Scott is the winningest coach in Super Rugby. I'm no Razor fanboy. But he needs to be given full control

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