All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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@Bones said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
the new Assistants
What have I missed? There's new assistants?
Allegedly to be announced. But may just be rumour.
@Victor-Meldrew. But this could explain the delay in fronting media while processes were being gone through and giving time to think about what could and could not be said for both legal and human relations reasons. And of course the need to see if everyone who was preparing for the South Africa trip was ready and keen to go... including coaches and support staff.
Some of the irresponsible media efforts this week seem to have overlooked the real world and have preferred mischievous or fictitious 'leaks' and idiots that shoot videos and circulate them to multiple place to provoke misplaced outrage. Check out the Sam Smith articles this week to see how desperate they can be with made up stuff. Would you give them the inside scoops this week??
I feel for the people trying to do the right thing for all parties under critical review. It is not like they are blind to calls of outrage, media leaks and media opinion pieces.
My take is there is a collective responsibility felt, given the very wrong media leaks and absence of whistle blowers and resignations from within. That should be a good thing!
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Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.
@Old-Samurai-Jack Taylor to be co captain. Ennor as assistant backs coach.
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Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.
@Old-Samurai-Jack was Mark Stafford the TAB (is he still there?) guy wasn't it?
Yep, edit post
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
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Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.
Didn't know we knew that.
Good result
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@Old-Samurai-Jack was Mark Stafford the TAB (is he still there?) guy wasn't it?
Yep, edit post
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Old-Samurai-Jack was Mark Stafford the TAB (is he still there?) guy wasn't it?
Yep, edit post
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Define 'excused'? Ryan for Feek would be a head scratcher. Isn't Ryan contracted elsewhere for RWC? If Plumtree was leaving it would be more logical. But the rumour is to replace a scrum specialist.
And interesting if Leon is added to AB's coaches after getting NZ XV appointment. Aren't they playing at the same time in different places? Blues might be asking questions if this is true.
Did anyone else think it odd recruiting Razor to coach against All Black XV before AB XV coach was named? I wonder who will select the Baabaas and who will play for them?
Sounds like some complicated issues around coach appointments moving forward if the twitter stuff all ends up true this time.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Old-Samurai-Jack was Mark Stafford the TAB (is he still there?) guy wasn't it?
Yep, edit post
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Define 'excused'? Ryan for Feek would be a head scratcher. Isn't Ryan contracted elsewhere for RWC? If Plumtree was leaving it would be more logical. But the rumour is to replace a scrum specialist.
And interesting if Leon is added to AB's coaches after getting NZ XV appointment. Aren't they playing at the same time in different places? Blues might be asking questions if this is true.
Did anyone else think it odd recruiting Razor to coach against All Black XV before AB XV coach was named? I wonder who will select the Baabaas and who will play for them?
Sounds like some complicated issues around coach appointments moving forward if the twitter stuff all ends up true this time.
@ARHS said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Old-Samurai-Jack was Mark Stafford the TAB (is he still there?) guy wasn't it?
Yep, edit post
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Ryan for Feek would be a head scratcher. Isn't Ryan contracted elsewhere for RWC? If Plumtree was leaving it would be more logical. But the rumour is to replace a scrum specialist.
And interesting if Leon is added to AB's coaches after getting NZ XV appointment. Aren't they playing at the same time in different places? Blues might be asking questions if this is true.
Did anyone else think it odd recruiting Razor to coach against All Black XV before AB XV coach was named? I wonder who will select the Baabaas and who will play for them?
Sounds like some complicated issues around coach appointments moving forward if the twitter stuff all ends up true this time.
Seems as if Plumtree and McLeod were central to Foster appointment. So replacement of either undermines foundation.
Mooar/Feek doesnt really get to central issues, but buys more time for results.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.
Didn't know we knew that.
Good result
@booboo Hold on, hold on. I thought I read on here that MacDonald was taking the AB XV. Going back now I can't find it. Another rumor? Sounds too sensible from the NZR to be true.....
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@booboo Hold on, hold on. I thought I read on here that MacDonald was taking the AB XV. Going back now I can't find it. Another rumor? Sounds too sensible from the NZR to be true.....
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@booboo Hold on, hold on. I thought I read on here that MacDonald was taking the AB XV. Going back now I can't find it. Another rumor? Sounds too sensible from the NZR to be true.....
Shame.
Would be happy with that
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@booboo Hold on, hold on. I thought I read on here that MacDonald was taking the AB XV. Going back now I can't find it. Another rumor? Sounds too sensible from the NZR to be true.....
@Old-Samurai-Jack I think it was mentioned in a Ferald article but there has been no official announcement, so only a rumour at this stage.
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@booboo Hold on, hold on. I thought I read on here that MacDonald was taking the AB XV. Going back now I can't find it. Another rumor? Sounds too sensible from the NZR to be true.....
@Old-Samurai-Jack.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129348883/dramatic-day-looms-for-nz-rugby-as-all-blacks-assistants-and-captain-sam-cane-face-axe. 1/3 down page or so
Stuff understands MacDonald will take charge of the All Blacks XV tour later this year, when those who miss out on All Blacks selection will be given the chance to impress in the northern hemisphere. -
@Old-Samurai-Jack.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129348883/dramatic-day-looms-for-nz-rugby-as-all-blacks-assistants-and-captain-sam-cane-face-axe. 1/3 down page or so
Stuff understands MacDonald will take charge of the All Blacks XV tour later this year, when those who miss out on All Blacks selection will be given the chance to impress in the northern hemisphere. -
@ARHS they should just have 1 sauce per article because when 1 is found to be rubbish the rest all crumble!
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Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.
Razor was offered the All Blacks VX apparently, but seem coaching the Baabaas maybe worth a bit more coin?
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@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@gt12 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I think its smart by NZRU as next year post WC two assistants could argue they want to be on the team of a new head coach.
So then - regardless of result - Razor becomes the ‘continuity’ candidate as Fozzie has to bring in all new people.
If we win they chalk it to the assistants.
If we lose, they hang it on Fozzie.Motherfuckin wishful thinking - but I'm onboard!!!!
I don't care who is on-board or who leads who - I just don't want to see another shambles like last WE.
Try the new Assistants and Joe Schmidt involvement, but if there's no big, consistent improvement, then take some radical action after the EOYT.
@Victor-Meldrew There has been more than enough time to see if this works. It doesn't. Minimal progress in ABs since 2016.
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Coach / Assistant Coach discussion can go in this thread:
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5431/foster-must-go-assistant-coach-changes/
We were getting the exact same news/conversation in two places and it was getting hard to follow
Lets keep this thread about the squad discussion
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@pakman it's not. it's rubbish. and a bit of "my favourite players, and my least favourite players" drum beating.
His description of Frizzell is fucking laughable. But not surprising given the user name
