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Bledisloe 1

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  • M Machpants

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 1:

    On the ref's decision at the end - would anyone have been cheesed off if he didn't take the penalty off Aussie? Was it crossing anyone's mind at the time that the ref should take action?

    Watching on TV you don't, because there is talk so over it and replays of the turn over. But those at the ground have mentioned it was more obvious. And listening to the mic now, ref was pissed.
    Foley ignored the ref and took a quick kick and got his team an undeserved 7 points.
    Foley ignored the ref and didn't take his kick quick enough, and gifted the opposition an undeserved 5 points. And the game.

    Settings and roundabouts in rugby, but it was a bit of just desserts

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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 1:

    On the ref's decision at the end - would anyone have been cheesed off if he didn't take the penalty off Aussie? Was it crossing anyone's mind at the time that the ref should take action?

    Foley ignored the ref and took a quick kick and got his team an undeserved 7 points.

    Have I missed something here? I assume you are talking about the Wallaby try from the alleged forward pass? Are you saying the ref told Foley to not take the conversion?

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      For those watching on Stan in Oz, I watched the first half again last night using their Spidercam view.

      It's slightly nauseating at first, then pretty amazing. You can see the setups, the lines, the spacing, as if youre behind the sticks in the top row, but instead you're still close enough to see all the detail.

      And the best part, it plays in complete silence

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      • S Steve

        Chunkyaho is the heart and soul of this fucking team.

        Foster dropped him during the Irish series and benched him for 2 games. Never forget it.

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        @Steve said in Bledisloe 1:

        Chunkyaho is the heart and soul of this fucking team.

        Foster dropped him during the Irish series and benched him for 2 games. Never forget it.

        Part of me wonders if there were reasons beyond what they said in the presser.

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        • A Anonymous

          @Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:

          @Frank red for entering from the side would be novel but I wouldn't put it past rugby to miss a chance to card a bloke.

          https://twitter.com/nrlphysio/status/1570366558169628672

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          @Anonymous said in Bledisloe 1:

          @Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:

          @Frank red for entering from the side would be novel but I wouldn't put it past rugby to miss a chance to card a bloke.

          https://twitter.com/nrlphysio/status/1570366558169628672

          Quoting this for those who missed it.

          Swain been cited yet?

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          • voodooV voodoo

            For those watching on Stan in Oz, I watched the first half again last night using their Spidercam view.

            It's slightly nauseating at first, then pretty amazing. You can see the setups, the lines, the spacing, as if youre behind the sticks in the top row, but instead you're still close enough to see all the detail.

            And the best part, it plays in complete silence

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            @voodoo Spidercam footage of the Foley pass would be good to see. 😉

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            • voodooV voodoo

              For those watching on Stan in Oz, I watched the first half again last night using their Spidercam view.

              It's slightly nauseating at first, then pretty amazing. You can see the setups, the lines, the spacing, as if youre behind the sticks in the top row, but instead you're still close enough to see all the detail.

              And the best part, it plays in complete silence

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              #1826

              @voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.

              Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation

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                That’s a miiiiiiiile forward

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                @gt12 said in Bledisloe 1:

                That’s a miiiiiiiile forward

                I recall the comms going on about Foley taking the kick quickly so the TMO can't intervene.

                Is that an actual protocol, or just what everyone thinks it is?

                Somewhere, sometime, I recall someone saying that wasn't the case.

                Can anyone confirm?

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                • M Machpants

                  @NTA said in Bledisloe 1:

                  @canefan said in Bledisloe 1:

                  @RoninWC said in Bledisloe 1:

                  Definitely forward pass in that off load

                  Almost Cardiff 07 level

                  Very quick conversion taken by Foley. Did not want that replayed on the big screen

                  I thought the rules had changed, and they could now pull it back even with a conversion taken

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                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                  @NTA said in Bledisloe 1:

                  @canefan said in Bledisloe 1:

                  @RoninWC said in Bledisloe 1:

                  Definitely forward pass in that off load

                  Almost Cardiff 07 level

                  Very quick conversion taken by Foley. Did not want that replayed on the big screen

                  I thought the rules had changed, and they could now pull it back even with a conversion taken

                  Yeah. This. Anyone confirm?

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                    @gt12 said in Bledisloe 1:

                    That’s a miiiiiiiile forward

                    I recall the comms going on about Foley taking the kick quickly so the TMO can't intervene.

                    Is that an actual protocol, or just what everyone thinks it is?

                    Somewhere, sometime, I recall someone saying that wasn't the case.

                    Can anyone confirm?

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                    #1829

                    @booboo ref usually tells him to stop if he is checking (although Foley clearly has hearing issues 😉 ) and I think at this point is only at NPC they are allowing it to be called back post conversion...?

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.

                      Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation

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                      @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:

                      @voodoo it was a few of the high shots that showed our defence, and is concerning with the lack of width and shape we use.

                      Is quite concerning that we have kept the same defence coach since 2017? and defence has been consistently poor, with no apparent improvement or innovation

                      100%. Mcleod's system continues to be poor. He lives a charmed life.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @voodoo Spidercam footage of the Foley pass would be good to see. 😉

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                        @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:

                        @voodoo Spidercam footage of the Foley pass would be good to see. 😉

                        If I knew how to post a video, I'd find it for us. Guess I could do some screenshots and red arrows instead...

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @voodoo Spidercam footage of the Foley pass would be good to see. 😉

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                          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:

                          @voodoo Spidercam footage of the Foley pass would be good to see. 😉

                          Hard to see from this angle how it left his hands, clearly the player recieved the ball forward but we know that is no how its ruled.
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                            This spider cam is the most damming, I think.
                            sotutu.jpeg

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                            • M Machpants

                              @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @Steve said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @Chris said in Bledisloe 1:

                              Fuck Clarke no idea in defence

                              Sevu Reece step up.

                              He did. Got dropped

                              didn't deserve it though.

                              Yeah you shouldn't get dropped for playing well, but this is foster

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                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @Steve said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @Chris said in Bledisloe 1:

                              Fuck Clarke no idea in defence

                              Sevu Reece step up.

                              He did. Got dropped

                              didn't deserve it though.

                              Yeah you shouldn't get dropped for playing well, but this is foster

                              Hmm.

                              "Dropped", not "replaced by a player that brings a different skill set"?

                              I'm a Reece fan.

                              And Clarke had his moments, good and awful, sometimes at the same time. But you can see why they pick him.

                              I just question the narrative that he was "dropped", when someone else is preferred.

                              But I suppose that doesn't fit the narrative.

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                              • M Machpants

                                @Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                @Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:

                                I'm sorry but why are they celebrating???

                                What would you prefer they did? Stab themselves?

                                After that, yes.

                                https://tenor.com/bacxS.gif

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                                @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                                @Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                @Joans-Town-Jones said in Bledisloe 1:

                                I'm sorry but why are they celebrating???

                                What would you prefer they did? Stab themselves?

                                After that, yes.

                                https://tenor.com/bacxS.gif

                                Accountability

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @gt12 said in Bledisloe 1:

                                  That’s a miiiiiiiile forward

                                  I recall the comms going on about Foley taking the kick quickly so the TMO can't intervene.

                                  Is that an actual protocol, or just what everyone thinks it is?

                                  Somewhere, sometime, I recall someone saying that wasn't the case.

                                  Can anyone confirm?

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                                  @booboo this is what Foster said on it

                                  "The other one that wasn’t clearcut was when Kellaway scored and the TMO wanted to look at what was a very suspicious forward pass, and yet the conversion was allowed to be taken," Foster noted.

                                  "All I know was he was telling the guy not to kick the conversion, because they were checking something."

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                                    Speaking of spidercam.

                                    Someone has transcribed the moments from the Foketi penalty until the ref calls turnover.

                                    Foley is told directly and takes an age.

                                    https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSRuSYK8q/

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      Draw is as ggod as a loss

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                                      #1838

                                      @booboo said in Bledisloe 1:

                                      Draw is as ggod as a loss

                                      When I mistyped this post I was referring to the Bled.

                                      Either result required us to win at EP (ignoring the likelihood of consecutive draws).

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                                        With all of the focus on the time wasting call no one is looking at the call and actions just before.

                                        That maul was driven sideways from yellow players joining from the sideline side. Same players then drove into the side and split the maul. Then the back section which had the ball had no numbers and went to ground for a yellow player that was on his knees to flop over the ball carrier and make a grab.

                                        If you also add in the call against yellow that gave us the penalty before the line out you could say that Reynal really lost the plot in the final stanza.

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @booboo said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @Frye said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @game_film said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          Look at Foley’s team mate screaming at him to kick it. He knew

                                          The commentators saying it's unprecedented but honestly what Foley was doing was taking the piss.

                                          Time wasting is a penalty

                                          Totally. Point one out in an other test

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                                          @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @booboo said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @Frye said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @game_film said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          Look at Foley’s team mate screaming at him to kick it. He knew

                                          The commentators saying it's unprecedented but honestly what Foley was doing was taking the piss.

                                          Time wasting is a penalty

                                          Totally. Point one out in an other test

                                          Why?

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