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2023 School Rugby

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @Kiwiwomble said in 2023 School Rugby:

    @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

    @Stargazer I'd like to know if Scots had to play with 14 players as this appears to have been a calculated move by the coaches. If they do keep their win over FAHS they need to have this sorted before playing PNBHS or default.

    thats a bit mad, part of me says you shouldn't be able to play if you dont have the front row reserves, i get it if you have several injuries during the game and then drop to 14...but if they know before then they can train for a different game plan, anyone know when they have to post team lists?

    Yeah, a school like Scots should be able to have some 2nd XV props ready to go. If it's true that they didn't have reserve props then they should forfeit this win.

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    @Nepia From what I've heard, Scots' 2nd XV and U15 teams have played uncontested scrums all season!

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      @Nepia From what I've heard, Scots' 2nd XV and U15 teams have played uncontested scrums all season!

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      @Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:

      @Nepia From what I've heard, Scots' 2nd XV and U15 teams have played uncontested scrums all season!

      Da fuq???

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        #365

        wow...if you dont have the players...you're playing a different game, so they can just field 3 extra loosies and play a completely different game plan to other teams

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          wow...if you dont have the players...you're playing a different game, so they can just field 3 extra loosies and play a completely different game plan to other teams

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          @Kiwiwomble Yeah, it was a comment I overheard, so I couldn't ask any questions. I don't know whether it's true, but if it was a shortage of players across the board, they should probably have moved some 2nd XV players to 1st XV, some older U15 players to 2nd XV and not play U15s. Or merge their 1st and 2nd XV teams.

          If it was just a shortage of frontrowers, you'd think they would convert some bigger loosies or midfielders into frontrowers.

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            @Kiwiwomble Yeah, it was a comment I overheard, so I couldn't ask any questions. I don't know whether it's true, but if it was a shortage of players across the board, they should probably have moved some 2nd XV players to 1st XV, some older U15 players to 2nd XV and not play U15s. Or merge their 1st and 2nd XV teams.

            If it was just a shortage of frontrowers, you'd think they would convert some bigger loosies or midfielders into frontrowers.

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            @Stargazer yeah, because i dont imagine they were dropping to 12, they'd have 2 extra loosies saying theyre front rowers but because they dont have the third then they have to go golden oldies

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              Controversy has surrounded the result of a national schools rugby knockout match.
              The Feilding High School first XV lost 43-35 to Scots College in their Hurricanes semifinal in Wellington on Saturday, but it is understood an appeal was lodged over the result and the outcome overturned.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300955444/controversy-surrounds-national-schools-knockout-rugby-match

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                Controversy has surrounded the result of a national schools rugby knockout match.
                The Feilding High School first XV lost 43-35 to Scots College in their Hurricanes semifinal in Wellington on Saturday, but it is understood an appeal was lodged over the result and the outcome overturned.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300955444/controversy-surrounds-national-schools-knockout-rugby-match

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                @Bovidae That sounds like the right decision. Not an ideal preparation for the final for Feilding, especially because they now have wait whether Scots appeal the decision and if they do, the outcome of that appeal. I hope it gives them extra motivation.

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                  I was amazed to read how little FAHS and PNBHS have played each other despite being from the same province.

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                    The final decision over Scots will be determined at a hearing tonight.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300957269/outcome-of-controversial-scots-v-feilding-schools-rugby-match-still-up-in-the-air

                    The uncertainty won't be helping Palmy either.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      The final decision over Scots will be determined at a hearing tonight.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300957269/outcome-of-controversial-scots-v-feilding-schools-rugby-match-still-up-in-the-air

                      The uncertainty won't be helping Palmy either.

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                      @Bovidae I don't think it matters much for Palmy. They'll be focussing on their own game, regardless who they'll be playing. If anything, this benefits them, because they are the only finalist with a proper preparation because they're 100% certain they'll be playing.

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                        Top 4 schedule.

                        Friday 1 September 2023
                        Girls’ 1st XV Championship – Semi-finals

                        10.30 am MAGS vs HGHS
                        12.30 pm MANUKURA vs CGHS

                        National 1st XV Championship – Semi-finals
                        1.10 pm Blues vs Chiefs
                        2.45 pm Hurricanes vs SBHS

                        Sunday 3 September 2023
                        (Note that these games may be subject to change, depending on who the Finalists are and the availability of South Island flights)
                        Girls’ 1st XV Championship – Finals
                        10.15 am Play-off for 3rd and 4th
                        10.30 am Final

                        National 1st XV Championship – Finals
                        11.45 am Play-off for 3rd and 4th
                        12.40 pm Final

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                          So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

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                            So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

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                            @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

                            So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

                            That's bullshit. They gamed the system and they've gotten away with it.

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                              Absolute nonsense. Scots have literally cheated in a semi-final and got away with it.

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

                                That's bullshit. They gamed the system and they've gotten away with it.

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                                @Nepia said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

                                That's bullshit. They gamed the system and they've gotten away with it.

                                It appears so. Poor from the NZR panel to overturn the decision. Everyone will be hoping that PNBHS smash them in the scrums, and that the ref isn't fooled.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @Nepia said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                  @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                  So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

                                  That's bullshit. They gamed the system and they've gotten away with it.

                                  It appears so. Poor from the NZR panel to overturn the decision. Everyone will be hoping that PNBHS smash them in the scrums, and that the ref isn't fooled.

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                                  @Bovidae I never thought I'd support Palmy Boys, but Scots simply don't deserve to be in the Hurricanes Final, let alone the Top 4. I feel for those Feilding boys, who've probably trained all week, just in case, and now their season is suddenly over and the cheating school goes through.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Nepia said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                    @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                    So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

                                    That's bullshit. They gamed the system and they've gotten away with it.

                                    It appears so. Poor from the NZR panel to overturn the decision. Everyone will be hoping that PNBHS smash them in the scrums, and that the ref isn't fooled.

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                                    @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                    @Nepia said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                    @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

                                    So Scots have only been given a written warning. They better find some props before the PNBHS game.

                                    That's bullshit. They gamed the system and they've gotten away with it.

                                    It appears so. Poor from the NZR panel to overturn the decision. Everyone will be hoping that PNBHS smash them in the scrums, and that the ref isn't fooled.

                                    Palmy had the edge over Napier in the scrums I saw last week (got there just after half time) and the Napier scrum is usually pretty good so the Palmy pack must have something going for them judging by that performance.

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                                      You have to feel for FAHS now.

                                      It is with great pleasure we announce that Palmerston North Boys' High are the Hurricanes 1st XV Champs. We were advised this evening that their opposition tomorrow was unable to field the required number of trained front-row players so have regrettably had to withdraw their challenge.

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                                        You have to feel for FAHS now.

                                        It is with great pleasure we announce that Palmerston North Boys' High are the Hurricanes 1st XV Champs. We were advised this evening that their opposition tomorrow was unable to field the required number of trained front-row players so have regrettably had to withdraw their challenge.

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                                        @Bovidae What the heck? Why couldn't FAHS just take their place in the Hurricanes Final? They have trained all week, awaiting the outcome of theirs and Scot's appeal! Scots really f*cked them over. They probably knew all the time they couldn't field enough frontrowers. They didn't need to appeal. If they hadn't, the decision on FAHS appeal would have stood and FAHS would have played the Final against Palmy.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Bovidae What the heck? Why couldn't FAHS just take their place in the Hurricanes Final? They have trained all week, awaiting the outcome of theirs and Scot's appeal! Scots really f*cked them over. They probably knew all the time they couldn't field enough frontrowers. They didn't need to appeal. If they hadn't, the decision on FAHS appeal would have stood and FAHS would have played the Final against Palmy.

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                                          @Stargazer Yeah, it's messy. Neither PNBHS or FAHS would need to travel for the Top 4 so they could have played on Sunday/Monday.

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