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Black Caps v England

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    Brook's live average is currently 98.75 - 10 more runs to average 100.

    #Betterthanbradman

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    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

    Brook's live average is currently 98.75 - 10 more runs to average 100.

    #Betterthanbradman

    Steady on, Jimmy Adams averaged 87 after 12 tests….look how he turned out.

    Vinod Kambli is another who springs to mind. Mike Hussey maybe too.

    This kid probably isn’t even as good as our boy Conway

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      At least we can count on the Wellington weather to reduce the scoring rate 🙂

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

        Brook's live average is currently 98.75 - 10 more runs to average 100.

        #Betterthanbradman

        Steady on, Jimmy Adams averaged 87 after 12 tests….look how he turned out.

        Vinod Kambli is another who springs to mind. Mike Hussey maybe too.

        This kid probably isn’t even as good as our boy Conway

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        @MN5 Lawrence Rowe momentarily averaged 336.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @MN5 Lawrence Rowe momentarily averaged 336.

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          @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

          @MN5 Lawrence Rowe momentarily averaged 336.

          Conway 200 too.

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            So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again

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            • MN5M MN5

              @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

              @MN5 Lawrence Rowe momentarily averaged 336.

              Conway 200 too.

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              @MN5 Lawrence might have been three-times as good as Andy Ganteaume - but, he turned out to be allergic to grass.

              Which is interesting for a West Indian. 🙂

              I guess he got hayfever if he was a normal person.

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again

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                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again

                To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.

                If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.

                To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                  So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again

                  To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.

                  If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.

                  To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.

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                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                  So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again

                  To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.

                  If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.

                  To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.

                  You basically always bowl first at the Basin. It is the only time you get anything out of the pitch.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                    So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again

                    To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.

                    If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.

                    To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.

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                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                    To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic

                    At the Basin? Really?

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                    • ARHSA ARHS

                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                      To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic

                      At the Basin? Really?

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                      @ARHS said in Black Caps v England:

                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                      To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic

                      At the Basin? Really?

                      I know teams bowling first at the Basin have historically had more success, but that's also pretty team dependant. Quite a few recent wins bowling first were lop sided affairs between mis-matched sides, eg. us slapping the Bangles (twice) and WI, or Aus slapping us, those results probably stay the same regardless of who bowls first. Of the last 15 tests it looks like 6 won by team bowling first, 4 by team batting first, and 5 draws. Given how much flatter the deck is these days I think we give up our overall advantage in the test as the likelihood of us skittling a team like England in the first hour is pretty low.

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                        @ARHS said in Black Caps v England:

                        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:

                        To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic

                        At the Basin? Really?

                        I know teams bowling first at the Basin have historically had more success, but that's also pretty team dependant. Quite a few recent wins bowling first were lop sided affairs between mis-matched sides, eg. us slapping the Bangles (twice) and WI, or Aus slapping us, those results probably stay the same regardless of who bowls first. Of the last 15 tests it looks like 6 won by team bowling first, 4 by team batting first, and 5 draws. Given how much flatter the deck is these days I think we give up our overall advantage in the test as the likelihood of us skittling a team like England in the first hour is pretty low.

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                        @No-Quarter we have 4 front line bowlers so want to bowl when conditions are most favourable. Or so I thought. Just phenomenal again from Brook.

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                          We picked eight batsmen. This was always going to turn to shit

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                            To me having a team at 21/3 show you made the right decision with the toss. What happened from there was poor execution with the ball and some good batting.

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                              Robinson apologises for Blundell dropping him by popping another goober next ball to Timmah.

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                                Horrible drop by Blundell though. Given his work up to the stumps am surprised at his apparent occasional sloppiness standing back.

                                Should have left it to Mitch at slip too.

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                                  Weird scoreboard.

                                  Take out Root and Brook ...

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                                    Weird scoreboard.

                                    Take out Root and Brook ...

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                                    @booboo said in Black Caps v England:

                                    Weird scoreboard.

                                    Take out Root and Brook ...

                                    and Wagner ...

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                                      If we had batted first we'd still be getting smashed, just in a different way.

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                                        Glad I got to see our golden period, coz we’ve come crashing back to our usual mediocre rubbish cricket pretty quickly.

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                                          At 7/2, today would be a very handy day for Latham to move his batting average against England to above 30.

                                          Might be one of those games where Brook and Root are just batting on a different pitch to everyone else.

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