It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.
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@canefan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
If the Blues 'make the Super final, Leon will end up with the second best winning percentage of any Blues coach (currently tied with Sloan). He's already the "winningest".
Short memories of how poor they were before he took over.
That isn't saying much. After GH, I'd say the Blues have been a study in futility. Leon doesn't seem to win the big ones when it matters
Leon has improved the group's culture massively, that's the key thing he's contributed, but I'd argue he's still figuring out his best team, indecisive selections have inhibited the side from reaching their full potential since 2020, look at McMillan he knows his best team & seriously values cohesion, he would never have persisted with Plummer (2021) then RTS (2022) as his starting 12, he would've eased RTS in as a utility-sub & Heem would've been his starting 12 for the last 2 seasons since TJ Faiane's departure. McDonald lacks decisiveness with his selections and is prone to experimenting in key positions (lock, blindside, 10, 12, 15) where stability is required leading into crucial matches.
@kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
McDonald lacks decisiveness with his selections and is prone to experimenting in key positions (lock, blindside, 10, 12, 15) where stability is required leading into crucial matches.
He's been pretty stable at 10. The Fern has been continuously urging him to play someone other than Beauden there - and he's resisted.
If they are fit - I bet he plays Tuipolotou, Ioane, Barrett, Heem and Perofeta in those "experimental" positions, in the play-offs.
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@canefan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
That isn't saying much. After GH, I'd say the Blues have been a study in futility. Leon doesn't seem to win the big ones when it matters
Poor old Leon.
He wins as many Super titles as the entire history of Canes' coaches and yet their fans are rubbishing him.
He's been unfortunate to have to coach against Coaching Jesus, who has repeatedly thwarted him (including by having his congregation provide him with Joe Moody at a crucial juncture, when he was short on props - that intervention about to be re-tested....).
His Super coaching also overlapped (quite favourably) with this guy....
@Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.
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@Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.
@Steven-Harris I don't have any concerns about our selections for AB coaches and assistant coaches.
They may end up not winning as much (and what) we want, but they're all good choices.
Right now, I think Razor will be struggling to field a team that can beat the Chiefs. McMillan is a smart coach and he's got the cards in his hand - but, we will see.... if both teams get that far.
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@canefan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
If the Blues 'make the Super final, Leon will end up with the second best winning percentage of any Blues coach (currently tied with Sloan). He's already the "winningest".
Short memories of how poor they were before he took over.
That isn't saying much. After GH, I'd say the Blues have been a study in futility. Leon doesn't seem to win the big ones when it matters
Leon has improved the group's culture massively, that's the key thing he's contributed, but I'd argue he's still figuring out his best team, indecisive selections have inhibited the side from reaching their full potential since 2020, look at McMillan he knows his best team & seriously values cohesion, he would never have persisted with Plummer (2021) then RTS (2022) as his starting 12, he would've eased RTS in as a utility-sub & Heem would've been his starting 12 for the last 2 seasons since TJ Faiane's departure. McDonald lacks decisiveness with his selections and is prone to experimenting in key positions (lock, blindside, 10, 12, 15) where stability is required leading into crucial matches.
@kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Leon has improved the group's culture massively, that's the key thing he's contributed, but I'd argue he's still figuring out his best team, indecisive selections have inhibited the side from reaching their full potential since 2020, look at McMillan he knows his best team & seriously values cohesion, he would never have persisted with Plummer (2021) then RTS (2022) as his starting 12, he would've eased RTS in as a utility-sub & Heem would've been his starting 12 for the last 2 seasons since TJ Faiane's departure. McDonald lacks decisiveness with his selections and is prone to experimenting in key positions (lock, blindside, 10, 12, 15) where stability is required leading into crucial matches.
Poor old Leon. Not only is he getting stick for the Blues performance and tactics - despite vastly improved results - he's also getting the hindsight stick for his "poor" selections.
Almost as if he's being set up as the fall-guy if and when things don't go as well as we think and hope under Robertson........
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@Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.
@Steven-Harris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.
Anyone got a gif of EdG doing that cry thing?
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@Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
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The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
@Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
Yeah. One coach's injury list is another coach's inability to select and develop a cohesive squad to cover injuries
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
@Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?
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@Steven-Harris I don't have any concerns about our selections for AB coaches and assistant coaches.
They may end up not winning as much (and what) we want, but they're all good choices.
Right now, I think Razor will be struggling to field a team that can beat the Chiefs. McMillan is a smart coach and he's got the cards in his hand - but, we will see.... if both teams get that far.
@Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Steven-Harris I don't have any concerns about our selections for AB coaches and assistant coaches.
They may end up not winning as much (and what) we want, but they're all good choices.
Unfortunately circumstances and availability mean you'll never get the best outcome.
Schmidt didn't want to continue in the role beyond 2023, while Andrew Goodman was never going to be brought out of his Leinster contract after that $450,000 Mooar farce. The only change I wanted to the current group is Goodman as defense coach (he filled that role 2017-2019) with Hansen running the attack strategy & overall gameplan as he's doing this currently for Crusaders, with McDonald working specifically with the outside backs.
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The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
There's always snipers waiting.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
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The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
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@Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.
You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
The Muppett show continues for a few months yet until it is finally put to death.
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Get behind Fozzie now, guys! He is locked in.
"I told you so", will bring you little joy on the night we get knocked out.
From experience - the only thing that will bring you much joy that day (rugby-wise) is if the Mako win the NPC earlier in the evening!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest
The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
@Machpants some of your best work right there talking of coach that gets a whole suitcase of free passes
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@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest
The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.
He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years
That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest
The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.
I disagree, he will be given time, as whatever the 24+ ABs serve up will be better than Foster. No one expects the dominance of the up to '15 ABs, just an improvement on the 17-23. Admittedly if we get worse performances then yes, but I really can't see that. He will be given time by the majority, as everyone knows it takes time to build back from a disaster. I expect that 24 will not be a great year. I just hope to see different tactics than 2015
