Argentina v All Blacks
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@Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
almost looks like some newbies being set up for failure...
Nah, throw 'em in the deep end..... :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
But seriously I'm Ok with the newbs as there's enough experience there.
@Victor-Meldrew thing is, a lot of that experience is not exactly the experience that is in top form.
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Irrational conservatism
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Loooool
Shit we have some average "elite" players these days
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Well fuck. I know I said I expected BBBR or SW would be rested, but I did expect to see ONE of them on the bench at least. And if I have to suffer a Frizzle, then Paps, Cane and Ardie better play their arses off. Pleased for Narawa and Lord. Christie is still ginga. Meh.
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Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias OrlandoDate: Saturday, July 8
Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia) -
Cheika won’t exactly be shitting himself ,
Anyway , fingers crossed
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Most gutted for Stevenson, this was likely his biggest shot for time given he is only there as cover for Telea.
A few good calls otherwise, based on actual form, some on reputation, however tarnished.
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Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias OrlandoDate: Saturday, July 8
Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)@Daffy-Jaffy said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias OrlandoDate: Saturday, July 8
Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)Odds on that fella getting carded?
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias OrlandoDate: Saturday, July 8
Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)Odds on that fella getting carded?
@Tordah said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Los Pumas team to face the All Blacks
Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Matias Moroni, 12 Lucio Cinti, 11 Mateo Carreras, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 4 Matias Alemanno, 3 Lucio Sordoni, 2 Julian Montoya (c), 1 Thomas Gallo
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Mayco Vivas, 18 Eduardo Bello, 19 Pedro Rubiolo, 20 Santiago Grondona, 21 Lautaro Bazan Velez, 22 Nicolas Sanchez, 23 Matias OrlandoDate: Saturday, July 8
Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
Kick off: 16:10 local (20:10 BST, 19:10 GMT)
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Nic Berry (Australia), Jordan Way (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)Odds on that fella getting carded?
Similar to laulala. Scott Barrett will really have to stand up, coles will have to niggle like a bastard, Jordie needs to stay on the pitch playing like last year, and I hope to god that BB and Clarke find some mojo.
Also go DMac
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Weak defence down the left side in particular is a worry. RI And CC positional defensive work has not been great.. Usually saved by Reikos pace, but that's often after the damage has been done.
And I am also not convinced BB is a strong defensive 15.
Hope Lord has a good game, and Frizzel needs to show why he's even in the squad as SB can't do it on his own..Can see Pumas winning this one.
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May not be team I would of picked, but no probs really, it's WC year, and we got Boks next week, so guess they want to look at a few thing? I a little surpised but pleased that Lord has got a start, makes sense to see how DMac goes running the ship too, no real big prob with a fairly heavy start for players who have not played for a few weeks, freshen up won't hurt them. Perhaps Stevenson may have been worth a look, but as he really only injury replacement for Telea who seems is close to right, maybe he will be out of squad nest week anyway.
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Makes sense to see how D Mac runs the ship?? How many games do you think we have before the World Cup? If BB is a FB why wasn’t he playing there all SR. I get that some players need a rest, but this is a weird team. Ofa and Casey’s little brother should have been gone a long time ago. I think Fozzie is up to his same old tricks and we’re going to see the same old results. I would love to be proven wrong.
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Weak defence down the left side in particular is a worry. RI And CC positional defensive work has not been great.. Usually saved by Reikos pace, but that's often after the damage has been done.
And I am also not convinced BB is a strong defensive 15.
Hope Lord has a good game, and Frizzel needs to show why he's even in the squad as SB can't do it on his own..Can see Pumas winning this one.
@Mattasaurus said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Weak defence down the left side in particular is a worry. RI And CC positional defensive work has not been great.. Usually saved by Reikos pace, but that's often after the damage has been done.
And I am also not convinced BB is a strong defensive 15.
Hope Lord has a good game, and Frizzel needs to show why he's even in the squad as SB can't do it on his own..Can see Pumas winning this one.
Another foster first
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I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?
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@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Beauden at 15.
That will go down well
That was always going to happen.
Again, he can't be rated as a 1st 5 if Mo'unga is on the bench.
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@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Beauden at 15.
That will go down well
That was always going to happen.
Again, he can't be rated as a 1st 5 if Mo'unga is on the bench.
@Bovidae said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Beauden at 15.
That will go down well
That was always going to happen.
Again, he can't be rated as a 1st 5 if Mo'unga is on the bench.
Small mercies
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Well fuck. I know I said I expected BBBR or SW would be rested, but I did expect to see ONE of them on the bench at least. And if I have to suffer a Frizzle, then Paps, Cane and Ardie better play their arses off. Pleased for Narawa and Lord. Christie is still ginga. Meh.
@Jailbreak7 Whitelock was never going to play as he hadn't been involved in training in NZ.
Hopefully this selection means that many of the players not in the 23 are playing SA.
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I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?
@Darth-Sader said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?
I’m guessing if telia was available he and narewa would have had a start each in these first two games at 14 ,
Because he’s brought in as cover for telia maybe he’s a chance in the second game at 14, but I wasn’t optimistic for him at fb considering they thought they had that position covered with their original selections
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@Darth-Sader said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I’m gutted for Stevenson. What does that guy have to do to get a break?
I’m guessing if telia was available he and narewa would have had a start each in these first two games at 14 ,
Because he’s brought in as cover for telia maybe he’s a chance in the second game at 14, but I wasn’t optimistic for him at fb considering they thought they had that position covered with their original selections
@kiwiinmelb Telea is in Argentina and has been training, so assume he is a shot at starting next week as I doubt they will give SS a shot v SA...poor fella has been probably one of the best players in Super and NPC in the past year or so and cant get a shot.
