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Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

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  • gt12G gt12

    @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Stevenson gets to hold tackle bags instead of having a run in Japan with the AB XV. 🙄

    As has Roigard, Finau, McLeod.

    I wonder whether we’ll see any of them.

    I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

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    @gt12 those players were in the full squad whereas Stevenson was only injury cover.

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      I was at the 50 point drubbing in Sydney, and then had the pleasure of watching the RWC loss in a Bondi pub packed to the rafters with non-kiwis delighting in our demise.

      Good times.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @gt12 those players were in the full squad whereas Stevenson was only injury cover.

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        @KiwiMurph

        I know. Which is why they are still there to hold tackle bags.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

          All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

          Mafileo is still with the squad though.

          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

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          @taniwharugby

          Thinking Foster & co are pretty settled on their RWC squad bar 2-3 positions and who plays where, and wants to give those players as much game time as possible.

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          • M Machpants

            @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            It's the Wallabies coached by EJ and we're still coached by Foster. I won't be counting any chickens until the Bled is behind lock and key.

            It'll be a 50-point flogging in Melbourne and a 30-point flogging in Dunedin when you run out your B team.

            Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2, but I think it will be closer, much closer. Hopefully an abs win but by 10 or less

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            @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2,

            Haven't you been paying attention?

            We ARE Tier 2

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            • NTAN NTA

              @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2,

              Haven't you been paying attention?

              We ARE Tier 2

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              @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2,

              Haven't you been paying attention?

              We ARE Tier 2

              Um no, still ranked 8th. You're not there ...

              yet 😉

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                I expect the same starting XV as a giant the Spingboks.

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                • voodooV voodoo

                  I was at the 50 point drubbing in Sydney, and then had the pleasure of watching the RWC loss in a Bondi pub packed to the rafters with non-kiwis delighting in our demise.

                  Good times.

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                  @voodoo we watched in a house, with half the crew Aussies, then headed to Bondi after. I was the guy standing in front of the cash machine at Bondi hotel, saying "yo mama" and refusing to move for any Aussies that came near. Woke up on Bondi beach about 7am on my own.

                  Good times.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @voodoo we watched in a house, with half the crew Aussies, then headed to Bondi after. I was the guy standing in front of the cash machine at Bondi hotel, saying "yo mama" and refusing to move for any Aussies that came near. Woke up on Bondi beach about 7am on my own.

                    Good times.

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                    • M Machpants

                      @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2,

                      Haven't you been paying attention?

                      We ARE Tier 2

                      Um no, still ranked 8th. You're not there ...

                      yet 😉

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                      @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      Except test rugby rarely works that way. Sure between tier 1 and 2,

                      Haven't you been paying attention?

                      We ARE Tier 2

                      Um no, still ranked 8th. You're not there ...

                      yet 😉

                      Anyone ranked below Scotland should be Tier 3

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                        I expect a conservative selection for this one, maybe Finau and Roigard off the bench, but no more than that.

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                          Funny thing is, despite Australia's woes at the moment come RWC time they have a far better chance of getting to the SF than NZ, SA, France or Ireland

                          Wins against Portugal, Georgia, Fiji, Wales & Argentina sees them in a likely showdown against the winner of Ireland/SA v France/NZ

                          I'd rather be in Eddie's shoes than Fozzie's

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                          • voodooV voodoo

                            Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

                            "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

                            "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


                            He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

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                            @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

                            "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

                            "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


                            He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

                            Coach talks up his team and doesn't suggest they are simply going to get flogged this weekend ...

                            Too many people suggesting exactly this for me to be comfortable. I have no doubt we are the better team (based on what witnessed so far in the RC) but this match is never a foregone conclusion.

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                            • MajorPomM MajorPom

                              @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

                              "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

                              "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


                              He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

                              Coach talks up his team and doesn't suggest they are simply going to get flogged this weekend ...

                              Too many people suggesting exactly this for me to be comfortable. I have no doubt we are the better team (based on what witnessed so far in the RC) but this match is never a foregone conclusion.

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                              @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

                              "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

                              "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


                              He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

                              Coach talks up his team and doesn't suggest they are simply going to get flogged this weekend ...

                              Too many people suggesting exactly this for me to be comfortable. I have no doubt we are the better team (based on what witnessed so far in the RC) but this match is never a foregone conclusion.

                              Sounds like he’s been taking notes off Brendon McCullum

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                              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

                                "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

                                "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


                                He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

                                Coach talks up his team and doesn't suggest they are simply going to get flogged this weekend ...

                                Too many people suggesting exactly this for me to be comfortable. I have no doubt we are the better team (based on what witnessed so far in the RC) but this match is never a foregone conclusion.

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                                @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @voodoo said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                Despite the losses, coach Eddie Jones has fired a warning shot at the All Blacks, before the sides meet for the first Bledisloe Cup match on July 29.

                                "While it seems doom and gloom at the moment, it's not, he said. "Beating a side here is a fair bit of optimism that we'll be able to change fairly quickly in the next couple of weeks.

                                "If I was the All Blacks, I'd look out."


                                He sounds like a 13yr old challenging a classmate to a fight after school round the back of the bike sheds

                                Coach talks up his team and doesn't suggest they are simply going to get flogged this weekend ...

                                Too many people suggesting exactly this for me to be comfortable. I have no doubt we are the better team (based on what witnessed so far in the RC) but this match is never a foregone conclusion.

                                Nah, screw that weak-ass attitude, we are going to fuck them up in Melbourne.

                                Steamroll right over the top of them, penalty-try scrums, rolling mauls from halfway, scything runs for 70m tries - likely point-a-minute stuff.

                                Heck, Will Jordan might outscore them on his own.

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                                  Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

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                                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                    Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

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                                    @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                                    I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      Funny thing is, despite Australia's woes at the moment come RWC time they have a far better chance of getting to the SF than NZ, SA, France or Ireland

                                      Wins against Portugal, Georgia, Fiji, Wales & Argentina sees them in a likely showdown against the winner of Ireland/SA v France/NZ

                                      I'd rather be in Eddie's shoes than Fozzie's

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                                      @MiketheSnow I think Fiji and Argentina if they can get all their potential players available are going to be competitive with Australia come the World Cup.

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

                                        It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

                                        Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .

                                        And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself

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                                        @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

                                        It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

                                        Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .

                                        And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself

                                        I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.

                                        Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.

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                                          Only change in starting XV might be Clarke getting a run at 11.
                                          Bench could see some variety.
                                          Possibly Ofa/Coles/Nepo/Whitelock/Finau/Roigard/DMac/ALB if they want to chance arm.
                                          Then a bit more leeway when Bled safely in cupboard.

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