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Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

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    @Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

    It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

    Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .

    And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself

    I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.

    Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.

    Yep seems the tickets maybe not selling great, seems the cut price ones alreadt released.

    Quelle surprise.

    Women's World Cup about to start. Ashes on. Limited money to spend.

    And the fuckwits put it on at the 'G. AAMI Park would have been more like the crowd size, mostly dressed in black.

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    @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁

    It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.

    Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .

    And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself

    I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.

    Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.

    Yep seems the tickets maybe not selling great, seems the cut price ones alreadt released.

    Quelle surprise.

    Women's World Cup about to start. Ashes on. Limited money to spend.

    And the fuckwits put it on at the 'G. AAMI Park would have been more like the crowd size, mostly dressed in black.

    They got 55k at Marvel last year. When you have 2 home games this year to make revenue it's pretty hard to turn around and put it at AAMI with 30k capacity when you can probably get at least 55k again.

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Stargazer said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

      @African-Monkey But they (Strange, Kirifi etc) aren't that far off, considering they've been selected for the ABs XV. The exception is PU-J, who's been overtaken by Proctor.

      Another one was that Fijian forward that played a few minutes and now he's off to France(?)

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      @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

      @Stargazer said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

      @African-Monkey But they (Strange, Kirifi etc) aren't that far off, considering they've been selected for the ABs XV. The exception is PU-J, who's been overtaken by Proctor.

      Another one was that Fijian forward that played a few minutes and now he's off to France(?)

      He looks about 40 so surely he's about to retire

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        Pauliasi Manu is the best of that uncapped bunch.

        WC medal but uncapped.

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          Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

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            @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

            No history that I’m aware of and the way that I took what he said was more a swipe at the ARU and the whole process, timing etc. I didn’t mind Knuckles. He didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.

            Was good to hear the big man after a couple of tough years health wise.

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              What a great nickname too. Knuckles. Sounds like a henchman from the Sopranos

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              • C cgrant

                Players who haven't been involved yet :

                Newell, Finau, Blackadder, Jacobson, Roigard, McLeod, ALB, LF, Stephenson. We might see a few of them on the team sheet. I expect the likes of Lomax, Scooter and Cane, who have had a big workload this year, to miss the selection.
                Possible team :

                De Groot
                Coles
                Laulala
                Lord
                Whitelock
                Vai'i (he played 6 when he came in against the Boss)
                DP
                Jacobson
                Smith
                DMac
                LF (if fit)
                ALB
                Ennor
                Narawa
                BB

                Sub : ST, Ofa T, Williams or Newell if fit, Retallick, Savea, Roigard, Mo'unga, McLeod.

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                @cgrant It's pretty hard to forecast this next match, because Fozzie could do anything. But, if he loses, he'll have to run out his top team the following week for fear of losing the Bled. So, I'm inclined to think a few changes, but probably not many. Something like:

                Williams
                Samisoni
                Lomax
                Retallick
                Whitelock
                Barrett
                Cane
                Savea
                Roigard
                Mo'unga
                Telea
                JBarrett
                Ioane
                Jordan
                DMac

                Coles
                Tu'ungafasi
                Laulala
                Frizell
                Jacobsen
                Christie
                ALB
                Fainga'anuku

                Hopefully, lock the Bled and RC away and run the game time experiments the following week.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                  Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .

                  No history that I’m aware of and the way that I took what he said was more a swipe at the ARU and the whole process, timing etc. I didn’t mind Knuckles. He didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.

                  Was good to hear the big man after a couple of tough years health wise.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                  [Knuckles] didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.

                  Standard procedure.

                  He also made some weird selection choices, but was given a squad too long in the tooth.

                  It's funny because it was back in the days where we only just had our fourth team, and the rot had already set in re: player development. The theory that less teams = better performance is simply not a guarantee.

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                    @chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                    Are there any other good examples of players making the squad but never actually getting capped? Curious to know who missed out over the years?

                    Stevenson never made the squad, he was cover, which is different. However, it indeed happens with full squad members not getting a run as the coaches want them in for a looksie.

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                    @Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                    @chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                    Are there any other good examples of players making the squad but never actually getting capped? Curious to know who missed out over the years?

                    Stevenson never made the squad, he was cover, which is different. However, it indeed happens with full squad members not getting a run as the coaches want them in for a looksie.

                    Have a feeling Rhys Duggan may have sat on the bench without getting on.

                    Who was the prop that won a RWC winners medal but didn't play?

                    David Halligan (not Daryl) (Otago?) scored all his sides points in the early trial back in the 70s or early 80s, named at fullback, got injured and never played.

                    Would be others.

                    Oops, meant to reply to @chimoaus

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                      Jason OHalloran never got on did he?

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                        Jason OHalloran never got on did he?

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                        @canefan Played against Italy.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @voodoo we watched in a house, with half the crew Aussies, then headed to Bondi after. I was the guy standing in front of the cash machine at Bondi hotel, saying "yo mama" and refusing to move for any Aussies that came near. Woke up on Bondi beach about 7am on my own.

                          Good times.

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                          @Bones said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                          Woke up on Bondi beach about 7am on my own.

                          https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ezgif-1-2334c9065d.gif

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                          • TordahT Tordah

                            I expect a conservative selection for this one, maybe Finau and Roigard off the bench, but no more than that.

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                            @Tordah said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                            I expect a conservative selection for this one, maybe Finau and Roigard off the bench, but no more than that.

                            Maybe DMac on the bench to come in at 10 to see how he goes with BB

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                              I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

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                              @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                              Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                              I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

                              We turned in up in Boks 2 last year, No reason the Wobblies can't do the same. I'm expecting a tight game.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                                I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

                                We turned in up in Boks 2 last year, No reason the Wobblies can't do the same. I'm expecting a tight game.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.

                                I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall

                                We turned in up in Boks 2 last year, No reason the Wobblies can't do the same. I'm expecting a tight game.

                                Eddie's probably plotting our downfall for this game, and forgotten about getting results in all of the other games

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                                  Wallabies have beaten ABs in Aus pre-world cup in the last 4 RWC years.

                                  07 - MCG
                                  11 - Suncorp
                                  15 - Homebush
                                  19 - Perth

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                                  • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                                    @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                    All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                    Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                    Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                    Foster is an idiot.

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                                    @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                    Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                    All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                    Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                    Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                    Foster is an idiot.

                                    Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

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                                      @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                      All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                      Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                      Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                      Foster is an idiot.

                                      Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                      Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                      All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                      Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                      Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                      Foster is an idiot.

                                      Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

                                      If they had reservations, surely the best thing was to at least see how he performed for the ABXV?

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                        Stevenson has been released, so he won't be playing.

                                        All Blacks hopeful Shaun Stevenson will leave the team before their Bledisloe Cup trip to Melbourne in a fortnight, despite impressing in training.

                                        Mafileo is still with the squad though.

                                        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/07/rugby-world-cup-coach-ian-foster-gives-squad-update-on-all-blacks-hopeful-shaun-stevenson.html

                                        Ah Jesus . What a waste.

                                        Foster is an idiot.

                                        Considering the compliments he's publicly given to SS, you wonder if it was Schmidt and/or McLeod who had reservations.

                                        If they had reservations, surely the best thing was to at least see how he performed for the ABXV?

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                                        @Bones

                                        He was injury cover and they wanted to work with him in camp on a few things around defence IIRC. Think they see him as a huge prospect but there's clearly a few issues they want ironed out

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                                          @Bones

                                          He was injury cover and they wanted to work with him in camp on a few things around defence IIRC. Think they see him as a huge prospect but there's clearly a few issues they want ironed out

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                          @Bones

                                          He was injury cover and they wanted to work with him in camp on a few things around defence IIRC. Think they see him as a huge prospect but there's clearly a few issues they want ironed out

                                          Unlike CC who is the finished article, oh wait...

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