RWC Week 1: France v All Blacks
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Why was A Smith subbed
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Why was A Smith subbed
@BerniesCorner the TV producers needed him to take Dupont out of his pocket
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@Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.
@Frank is in denial.
Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.
He’ll move through the stages on his own time.
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@Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.
@Frank is in denial.
Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.
He’ll move through the stages on his own time.
@gt12 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.
@Frank is in denial.
Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.
He’ll move through the stages on his own time.
You clearly haven't been paying attention to what I have been saying about Foster.
Summary - it's not good. -
@Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.
@Frank is in denial.
Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.
He’ll move through the stages on his own time.
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@Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Roigard will be starting by 2027
Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.
Roigard could be starting by 2024
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Roigard will be starting by 2027
Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.
Roigard could be starting by 2024
End of 2023
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Why was A Smith subbed
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Why was A Smith subbed
Agree Smith could have played a full 80, why is there always this need to replace the. Halfback?
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Why was A Smith subbed
Agree Smith could have played a full 80, why is there always this need to replace the. Halfback?
@Nevorian fatigue clouds decision making perhaps? Dupont was on until 76th minute, so it is an AB tactic thing.
Again, probably an overhang from when ABs had “closers” worthy of the name. Comes back to cutting your cloth according to the material you have at your disposal.
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Could have been a pre determined sub of our most important player in a meaningless fixture when it comes to the RWC? I'd be surprised if we are subbing Smith in the finals, though I could be wrong.
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Why was A Smith subbed
Agree Smith could have played a full 80, why is there always this need to replace the. Halfback?
@Nevorian said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Why was A Smith subbed
Agree Smith could have played a full 80, why is there always this need to replace the. Halfback?
Pig headedness?
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Not sure if this has been mentioned, but something I noticed while watching this morning: less replays during play. Less chances for the crowd to "ooh!" and "aah!" for potential infringements.
It was a bit of a blight that hometown broadcasters were pointing the ref towards possible visiting infringements. Didn't seem to happen.
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@antipodean did you see much live that was a positive for the ABs? Or was the score difference a fair reflection of the game?
@stodders said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@antipodean did you see much live that was a positive for the ABs? Or was the score difference a fair reflection of the game?
France had 12-4 penalty advantage. Converted into being about two points better. ABs leaked reasonably meaningless try late when trying to play catch up.
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@antipodean was the French defence offside by much? Was it visible at the ground (always difficult to judge on TV)?
@stodders said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@antipodean was the French defence offside by much? Was it visible at the ground (always difficult to judge on TV)?
There was one ruck where that phucking winger was almost chatting to Mark Telea he was so far offside. Had Peyper called it, we would have phucked it up anyway such as ghat second half shithousery.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Chester-Draws said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@antipodean said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@antipodean said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Quick report from your local correspondent here in fucking hot Paris:
Backroom full of donkeys. Vaai, predictability, the worst of them. Tight five carried them. In as much as you can call that display "carried".
De Groot will want to forget that game in a hurry. ALB was MIA after that beautiful pop pass to Rieko.
Will Jordan is obviously a very dimwitted slow learner. Jump to contest you fuckwomble.Beaudy was bloody good until the final quarter. As was Mounga.
The blame for you Foster haters needs to be apportioned to the rest of the coaching staff who have had plenty of time to address the obvious issues. This was a collective display of incompetence.
The buck stops at the head coach. And with Ryan and Schmidt we have had some games which forwards really muscled up and attack was good versus decent opposition. Prior to them, none. So yes Ryan and Schmidt are part of the selectors and coaching team, but there has been improvement with them on board. Foster had the final say, and the midfield bomb/millions of sorry kicks/play in your own 22 has been the default under the entire foster tenure. And that leads to our losses
Ahh yes, the predictable lament that 'when we're good it's the assistants, when we're bad it's the head coach'. Those with a few more functioning synapses might start to look at the quality of player available and reflect on that body of evidence.
IMO you have to be a dimwit to believe that the problem is just the head coach.
Nope, just recognising that in the end the head coach makes the decisions, and if he ignores his assistants, then they cannot be held accountable.
We have plenty of evidence that Schmidt is a good coach, and that Ryan is a great forwards coach. If they have turned to rubbish within one year, then it is one man that has done that.
When things were going dreadfully, Foster had no choice but to allow them to make changes. Once things were going well, we saw him revert to his favourite players and plays.
By the end of next year the whining about not having decent players will be gone. It will take the change of one man in the set-up. (I'm not even particularly pro-Robertson, I think that would happen if he were to resign and say Jamie Joseph got the job.)
And you have this deep inside knowledge of the discussions between Foster, Schmidt and Ryan how?
If you think all the problems can be solved by replacing one man and then in a few months NZ Rugby will be back to the glory days of 50 point shellackings of the Boks, then I could put you in touch with some people who are selling a bridge?
You only have to look at the U20 performance since 2016, the lack of player development, the innovation in coaching and rugby structure in the NH and NZR's seeming inability to notice the rugby world has moved on to see the problems are way deeper than that
You are sure of your position, based on exactly the same evidence as I am. Unless you do have inside knowledge. You wouldn't go round slighting people when you are doing the exact same thing, would you?
I never said we would be back to the glory days in one year, only that the clown days will be over, and that people will stop thinking we have no depth. The change will be that we play to the strengths of the players, not trying to shoe-horn the players into a very ordinary game plan.
At the end of 2024 is when you should bag me for being wrong. I'll be here.
(Just for the record, I predicted almost exactly what has happened under the Foster regime four years ago. All I'm doing now is predicting what will happen when he leaves, and we have history to suggest what might happen in that regard.)
@Chester-Draws said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You are sure of your position, based on exactly the same evidence as I am. Unless you do have inside knowledge. You wouldn't go round slighting people when you are doing the exact same thing, would you?
I'm not claiming inside knowledge and that Foster over-ruled Schmidt & Ryan - you are.
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This will give you a laugh...
Interestingly, another record today, quickest RWC apparently...
@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
This will give you a laugh...
Interestingly, another record today, quickest RWC apparently...
Oh, fuck me....
