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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
    not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
    Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
    Just one.

    No SB or JB in 2015.

    Just Coles, Taylor, Whitelock, Retallick, Cane, Smith, B. Barrett

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    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#New_Zealand
    not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
    Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads#Pool_A
    Just one.

    No SB or JB in 2015.

    Just Coles, Taylor, Whitelock, Retallick, Cane, Smith, B. Barrett

    Eh? You're right. I seem to have lost the ability to read. Learnings from the Fern, I guess.

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      ABs have had so many "learnings" you'd expect a 30-point victory! I know I harp on but it is the exits from the 22 that are going to be crucial. Last night in the Japan and Argies game, it was on the edge for both teams until a "BB-like shit kick" by Japan led to an Argie try and swung the momentum of the game. I will die a little on the inside when (not if...it is every game these days) this happens in the QF.

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      • canefanC canefan

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

        The most important position in a Rugby team is Tighthead Prop. The second most important position in a Rugby team is backup Tighthead Prop. Losing Tyrell Lomax for a World Cup knockout would be a massive blow for the All Blacks.

        Foster calls BS. Winger and reserve winger are the two most important positions

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        @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

        The most important position in a Rugby team is Tighthead Prop. The second most important position in a Rugby team is backup Tighthead Prop. Losing Tyrell Lomax for a World Cup knockout would be a massive blow for the All Blacks.

        Foster calls BS. Winger and reserve winger are the two seven most important positions

        FIFY

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        • O Old Samurai Jack

          ABs have had so many "learnings" you'd expect a 30-point victory! I know I harp on but it is the exits from the 22 that are going to be crucial. Last night in the Japan and Argies game, it was on the edge for both teams until a "BB-like shit kick" by Japan led to an Argie try and swung the momentum of the game. I will die a little on the inside when (not if...it is every game these days) this happens in the QF.

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          @Old-Samurai-Jack maybe thats the problem, too many learnings and the messages getting confused.

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          • voodooV voodoo

            Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

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            @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

            Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

            Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

              Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

              Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

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              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

              @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

              Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

              Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!

              I did say "expects" not "wants" - surely even Tim isn't expecting Foster to make that change!

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              • voodooV voodoo

                Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

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                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

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                  I think that's only likely if they believe Sam is still short a run.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

                    Friz, Paps, Ardie

                    I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

                    I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

                    But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

                    We simply cannot let them continue to recycle phase after phase no matter who is selected

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                    I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

                    Exactly

                    Every good performance in the last few years has been us having a good burst in the first half. We are decent front runners

                    When the game gets into an arm wrestle? This side has been abysmal. It's about mitigating that by picking bench players than can close out a match.

                    Whitelock v Retallick is a close call but they've settled on Whitelock being a finisher for the same reason

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                      It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

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                      #189

                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded

                      It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected

                      No, they picked Cane initially and he got hurt just prior - edit - sorry, you're talking Italy not France? Not 100% then.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Ireland's defence is incredible.

                        8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.

                        I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                        Let's George Ford them.

                        Keep the scoreboard ticking over.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                        BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

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                          Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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                            Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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                            @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                            Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal chipkick out of our 22? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                              BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

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                              @Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                              BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

                              I hope not, otherwise....

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Beauden practicing drop goals all week.

                                BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.

                                I hope not, otherwise....

                                alt text

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                                @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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                                and all this time I thought it was a sprig

                                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/06/super-rugby-pacific-beauden-barrett-reveals-how-close-heel-injury-came-to-ending-world-cup-hopes.html

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                                  mooshld
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                                  Just been told my wife is away and its on at the rugby club so I don't have to watch it surrounded by my Irish inlaws.

                                  So week off to a good start.

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                                    I went with the All Blacks.
                                    Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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                                      canefan
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                                      I'd love us to have a Merhts moment on Sunday...

                                      Andrew-Mehrtens-zap.jpg630.jpg

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                                      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                        I went with the All Blacks.
                                        Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...

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                                        stodders
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                                        @Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge 😄

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                                          There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.

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