RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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I'm not happy about Christie, Telea.
However I am really worried snd concerned about Tamaiti Williams on the bench. We should be picking experience on the bench, not a rookie.
@Damo haha need that experience at reserve 9, but not prop
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I'm not happy about Christie, Telea.
However I am really worried snd concerned about Tamaiti Williams on the bench. We should be picking experience on the bench, not a rookie.
@Damo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I'm not happy about Christie, Telea.
However I am really worried snd concerned about Tamaiti Williams on the bench. We should be picking experience on the bench, not a rookie.
True. Experience losing is still good. All part of learnings.
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Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.
Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).
My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.
@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.
Not baffling. He's been picked for his defence which is one dimensional thinking.
Completely the wrong decision IMHO as Roigard offers a whole lot more and is what we used to call a "comer" in the old days - a player not frightened to try things
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Foster shat the bed with his selections in his first test as head coach against Australia in 2000, and it looks like he has done the same in what will probably be his last test as ABs head coach. That bench is average tbh.
Big fan of Telea but he has let the team down badly. He's been our most lethal back at the RWC and his absence will be felt.
@akan004 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Foster shat the bed with his selections in his first test as head coach against Australia in 2000, and it looks like he has done the same in what will probably be his last test as ABs head coach. That bench is average tbh.
Big fan of Talea but he has let the team down badly. He's been our most lethal back at the RWC and his absence will be felt.
Jeepers. 23 years. No wonder Foster has gone a bit stale. Time for him to go.
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
In all seriousness the one thing that pisses me off is that after reading these post team announcement headlines the Irish team will be shaking their heads with bemusement. I'm sick of coming second in the smart team stakes.
Where's Razor.He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills
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@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills
@Victor-Meldrew I reckon he’d make him feel world class at the v least
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It pains me to say I have never been more confident of an impending All Black loss
Under Foster we have arrived at RWC QF 4 years later as a massive underdog.
Even against England in the 2019 RWC semi final there was reasonable degree of confidence the ABs would get the job doneHoping for the best expecting the worst
I would imagine that’s what many other supporters use to think when their team was taking on the All Blacks -
Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.
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It pains me to say I have never been more confident of an impending All Black loss
Under Foster we have arrived at RWC QF 4 years later as a massive underdog.
Even against England in the 2019 RWC semi final there was reasonable degree of confidence the ABs would get the job doneHoping for the best expecting the worst
I would imagine that’s what many other supporters use to think when their team was taking on the All Blacks@Steven-Harris said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Hoping for the best expecting the worst
Are you gonna drop the bomb or not
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Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.
@BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.
Christie was a breath of carious, decaying tooth air in many other Tests, though, which has its fans, too
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@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.
Not baffling. He's been picked for his defence which is one dimensional thinking.
Completely the wrong decision IMHO as Roigard offers a whole lot more and is what we used to call a "comer" in the old days - a player not frightened to try things
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Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.
@BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.
Any new bloke coming on with the game well and truly over and having a go would have looked a breath of fresh air in that shit-show.
What was way more impressive was the way he calmed himself down after a shit start against Uruguay and then played like he was born to the role.
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Schmidt must have had an input into the 9. He coached Christie with the Blues, so maybe he swayed Foster
Or maybe Schmidt found out this Irish team are allergic to redheads as he went through his intense analysis
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Schmidt must have had an input into the 9. He coached Christie with the Blues, so maybe he swayed Foster
Yes, it would be good to know how much influence the assistant coaches have in the final selections. Ryan has rolled the dice with the young props while Schmidt has gone all conservative.
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@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones have to say it must be reasonably major to be stood down for a RWC quarter final, when he is a form winger?
No I don't think so, the rules don't change 'cos it is a 1/4, the ABs leadership group will have set the rules, and they will have given the punishment. Same as if it was Namibia on Sun.
Exactly it was the leadership group that stopped Cruden going on a tour when he missed a team bus a few years back.
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Schmidt was always conservative with Irish selections. I really think not picking Roigard is a msssive mistake. Christie is the kind of halfback the Scottish would choose. Oh wait he is Scottish.
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@Victor-Meldrew that is baffling to me.
Any supposed superiority in Christie's defence is more than negated by Roigard's superiority elsewhere.
So again, I think it's baffling.
@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew that is baffling to me.
Any supposed superiority in Christie's defence is more than negated by Roigard's superiority elsewhere.
So again, I think it's baffling.
Not for me. I understand the thinking and decision
I also understand it's shit thinking and a shit decision..
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not one to cause alarm but Roigard was a breath of fresh air at Twickenham. It was only South Africa though.
Any new bloke coming on with the game well and truly over and having a go would have looked a breath of fresh air in that shit-show.
What was way more impressive was the way he calmed himself down after a shit start against Uruguay and then played like he was born to the role.
@Victor-Meldrew Well his laser like focus and determination was what set him apart.
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@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew that is baffling to me.
Any supposed superiority in Christie's defence is more than negated by Roigard's superiority elsewhere.
So again, I think it's baffling.
Not for me. I understand the thinking and decision
I also understand it's shit thinking and a shit decision..
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Not for me. I understand the thinking and decision
Really though? What is the actual defensive edge he has, any idea? It's been said a lot, but there hasn't been any substance put to it.
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@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.
Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).
My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.
I must admit I would go for Roigard, but I think (well and Foster says it) Christie is considered a better defender, which is hard to argue with or against as I haven't really taken a lot of notice, and with Irish you will see that Gibson-Parkes does cause problems for teams in and around breakdowns.
As for Telea, I guess if you break the rules , usually set by the leadership team, you have to cop it I suppose. And perhaps he wasn't desperate enough to play or he wouldn't of done it.@Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@foobaNZ said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Like most, my first reaction is why TF Christie is there over Roigard. Absolutely baffling.
Looking at it overall, it's the best 23 aside from that one glaring selection (and Telea being unavailable).
My concern though is the starting props haven't had a lot of recent game time. They're our best, no doubt, but that is a worry.
I must admit I would go for Roigard, but I think (well and Foster says it) Christie is considered a better defender, which is hard to argue with or against as I haven't really taken a lot of notice, and with Irish you will see that Gibson-Parkes does cause problems for teams in and around breakdowns.
Christie will be 95% matching up against Murray, not JGP. They play quite differently.
