All Blacks 2024.. locked
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@reprobate and what's the alternative? Scott Barrett who has brain explosions on a regular...
I've been impressed with Ardie's captaincy this year, I actually think he's matured a lot compared to when he started captaining the side a couple years ago (when he was prone to make silly decisions).
Can’t fault Ardie for leading by example. If it’s not Ardie, Sam or Scott does Jordie have leadership credentials??
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@reprobate and what's the alternative? Scott Barrett who has brain explosions on a regular...
I've been impressed with Ardie's captaincy this year, I actually think he's matured a lot compared to when he started captaining the side a couple years ago (when he was prone to make silly decisions).
Can’t fault Ardie for leading by example. If it’s not Ardie, Sam or Scott does Jordie have leadership credentials??
Ardie has runs on the board, even if he isn't everyone's cup of tea. As far as alternatives, it has to be a nailed on starter this time. Maybe captaincy will be the making of Scooter? He's oone of our best forwards now
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ardie will be 34 come the next world cup, so whilst im happy for him to keep performing in the black jersey as long as he can....it wouldn't be a surprise if he is losing a yard of pace especially considering how hard he plays...and i would hate to be in a situation where we were picking someone as captain and they were no longer first choice in their position
im a big fan of picking your best 15 and then selecting the captain form that...so im wont be upset if we dont get a captain named until the first squad gets named
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For me Jordie is a nailed on starter too. But not sure if captaincy materiel. As an aside I’m now convinced about rieko at centre. Thought our midfield was as good as any other at the RWC. We really need another lock or two to replace the veterans and a blindside. The backs will take care of themselves.
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For me Jordie is a nailed on starter too. But not sure if captaincy materiel. As an aside I’m now convinced about rieko at centre. Thought our midfield was as good as any other at the RWC. We really need another lock or two to replace the veterans and a blindside. The backs will take care of themselves.
@Billy-Tell yeah, not concerned about rieko....i just want us to play to his strengths more, work out how we can get him hitting a soft outside shoulder and only receiving the ball a second beforehand
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Is Scooter the Crusaders Captain? If so, he might be worth a go now. Otherwise he should be made Captain ASAP. Perhaps retain Ardie (assuming SC is out) and introduce SB as VC to get him blooded
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024? I prefer for the captain to be a forward, and no one else (apart from AS) is a nailed on starter right now. I wonder if Razor will want to avoid a leadership vacuum next season by keeping Cane in some capacity (Sam W, BBBR, Ardie(?), AS all gone), or if he is more than happy to pick a young team and build from the ground up
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024? I prefer for the captain to be a forward, and no one else (apart from AS) is a nailed on starter right now. I wonder if Razor will want to avoid a leadership vacuum next season by keeping Cane in some capacity (Sam W, BBBR, Ardie(?), AS all gone), or if he is more than happy to pick a young team and build from the ground up
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024?
I think Ardie will be back for the July tests.
Maybe Scott is I am not sure,I think Razor will pick his own man as Captain so it maybe someone other than the 2023 Captains.Normally a new Coach likes to install his choice as Captain not a previous coaches choice.But anyones guess.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024?
I think Ardie will be back for the July tests.
Maybe Scott is I am not sure,I think Razor will pick his own man as Captain so it maybe someone other than the 2023 Captains.Normally a new Coach likes to install his choice as Captain not a previous coaches choice.But anyones guess.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024?
I think Ardie will be back for the July tests.
Maybe Scott is I am not sure,I think Razor will pick his own man as Captain so it maybe someone other than the 2023 Captains.Normally a new Coach likes to install his choice as Captain not a previous coaches choice.But anyones guess.
But if Scooter was his captain at the Saders he must be seriously in the running? Ardie is a good soldier, and I don't think he'd be fussed if he isn't given the captaincy
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024?
I think Ardie will be back for the July tests.
Maybe Scott is I am not sure,I think Razor will pick his own man as Captain so it maybe someone other than the 2023 Captains.Normally a new Coach likes to install his choice as Captain not a previous coaches choice.But anyones guess.
But if Scooter was his captain at the Saders he must be seriously in the running? Ardie is a good soldier, and I don't think he'd be fussed if he isn't given the captaincy
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024?
I think Ardie will be back for the July tests.
Maybe Scott is I am not sure,I think Razor will pick his own man as Captain so it maybe someone other than the 2023 Captains.Normally a new Coach likes to install his choice as Captain not a previous coaches choice.But anyones guess.
But if Scooter was his captain at the Saders he must be seriously in the running?
Yes I would think his name will be in the mix.
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If we assume the captain will be a forward, the list is short. Won't be one of the front row, they haven't been there long enough. No one has nailed down 6, and if Razor drops Cane there will be players vying for the 6 and 7 jerseys. Unless he decides to move Ardie I think he has 8 sewn up. New 9, new 10, not convinced JB can captain from 12, Rieko nah, wings as captain don't work for me. I don't he would be advised to make a newbie captain. So the short list is 2 for me
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Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options
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Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options
Maybe the added responsibility will calm him down. Is he a card magnet at Super level?
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A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
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A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
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just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again
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just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again
Fuck that, let's look forward to a new era!
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
He's a good team man, so perhaps Cane could be an experienced transitional squad member
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
No Blackadder ? That’s not how things are done round here
