All Blacks 2024.. locked
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024?
I think Ardie will be back for the July tests.
Maybe Scott is I am not sure,I think Razor will pick his own man as Captain so it maybe someone other than the 2023 Captains.Normally a new Coach likes to install his choice as Captain not a previous coaches choice.But anyones guess.
But if Scooter was his captain at the Saders he must be seriously in the running? Ardie is a good soldier, and I don't think he'd be fussed if he isn't given the captaincy
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah Scott has been the Crusaders Captain for the last 2 seasons.
He is the logical choice going forward, if they don't choose to retain Ardie. Will he be back from Japan by the time the test season starts in 2024?
I think Ardie will be back for the July tests.
Maybe Scott is I am not sure,I think Razor will pick his own man as Captain so it maybe someone other than the 2023 Captains.Normally a new Coach likes to install his choice as Captain not a previous coaches choice.But anyones guess.
But if Scooter was his captain at the Saders he must be seriously in the running?
Yes I would think his name will be in the mix.
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If we assume the captain will be a forward, the list is short. Won't be one of the front row, they haven't been there long enough. No one has nailed down 6, and if Razor drops Cane there will be players vying for the 6 and 7 jerseys. Unless he decides to move Ardie I think he has 8 sewn up. New 9, new 10, not convinced JB can captain from 12, Rieko nah, wings as captain don't work for me. I don't he would be advised to make a newbie captain. So the short list is 2 for me
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Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options
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Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options
Maybe the added responsibility will calm him down. Is he a card magnet at Super level?
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A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
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A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
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just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again
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just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again
Fuck that, let's look forward to a new era!
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
He's a good team man, so perhaps Cane could be an experienced transitional squad member
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
No Blackadder ? That’s not how things are done round here
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or Grace or MMT?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:
MMT?
Did not kick on. Struggled to start for the Highlanders this year and has moved to Japan
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A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
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@taniwharugby completely disagree, need to rip of the bandaid now and get a genuinely international class centre in place for 2027
@Stag said in All Blacks 2024:
@taniwharugby completely disagree, need to rip of the bandaid now and get a genuinely international class centre in place for 2027
The only problem is we don't have a surfeit of options to waste Tests on if you don't like Rieko.
For much the same reason people got pissy when the AB coaches kept trying to find a blindside flanker.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Did he Though ? I am not sure that is correct from what I understand.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Did he Though ? I am not sure that is correct from what I understand.
You confirmed it earlier this year?
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Yeah I heard about them meeting,Potential new AB Captain maybe or a switch in positions to 6.But not 100% sure.
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@Stag said in All Blacks 2024:
@taniwharugby completely disagree, need to rip of the bandaid now and get a genuinely international class centre in place for 2027
The only problem is we don't have a surfeit of options to waste Tests on if you don't like Rieko.
For much the same reason people got pissy when the AB coaches kept trying to find a blindside flanker.
Reiko will be 30 by the time the next WC rolls around not old for a centre,But he will lose some of his pace probably by then which is his major weapon.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
I would think Razor is in a very good position as a selector to pick the 2024 squad.
For the last 7 years he has coached and coached against all the NZ players in SR,
He would have a good handle on players strengths which he would have had to combat and any weakness which he would be looking to exploit.
And knowing the same about the players he had coached.
I guess McDonald and Holland should also be aware of who fits into their vision of The ABs tactics and game shape.
For much the same reasons.Ugh, I was happily looking forward to next year while reading this post until I got to here.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
I would think Razor is in a very good position as a selector to pick the 2024 squad.
For the last 7 years he has coached and coached against all the NZ players in SR,
He would have a good handle on players strengths which he would have had to combat and any weakness which he would be looking to exploit.
And knowing the same about the players he had coached.
I guess McDonald and Holland should also be aware of who fits into their vision of The ABs tactics and game shape.
For much the same reasons.Ugh, I was happily looking forward to next year while reading this post until I got to here.
I'm having serious doubts about Razor's ability to pick good assistants when I see Leon is going to be the attack coach.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.
Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.
Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them
I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.
6 - Finau / Jacobson
7 - Papali’i
8 - Savea (C)Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:
6 - Finau / Jacobson
Jacobson is best suited to no.8 and he very rarely plays 6 for the Chiefs.
If Cane isn't selected I wouldn't mind seeing Harmon given an opportunity at 7.
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I’d say something pretty catastrophic would need to occur for Ioane not to be there in 4 years time.
We have the makings of a world class midfield. Razor and co just need to find ways to better utilise their skills. The challenge will be ensuring we have back ups that get experience without the drop off being too far.
QT started to show promise prior to injury and I think a guy like McLeod who has size and a decent head on his shoulders could be ‘projects’ that the new coaches would work with.
