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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

    Scooters name has to be in the mix...personally im still a little nervous about his brain farts...and thats when hes just trying to play let alone if hes thinking about captain stuff...but there also arent loads of options

    Maybe the added responsibility will calm him down. Is he a card magnet at Super level?

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      A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

      Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

        Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

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        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

        A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

        Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

        Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

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          just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again

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            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

            just had a vision, no matter how well we do next year we'll still have SA fans reminding us they're the World Champs and now im sad again

            Fuck that, let's look forward to a new era!

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

              A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

              Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

              Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

              A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

              Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

              Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

              I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.

              6 - Finau / Jacobson
              7 - Papali’i
              8 - Savea (C)

              Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

                Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

                I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.

                6 - Finau / Jacobson
                7 - Papali’i
                8 - Savea (C)

                Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment

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                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

                Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

                I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.

                6 - Finau / Jacobson
                7 - Papali’i
                8 - Savea (C)

                Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment

                He's a good team man, so perhaps Cane could be an experienced transitional squad member

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                  A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

                  Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                  Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

                  I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.

                  6 - Finau / Jacobson
                  7 - Papali’i
                  8 - Savea (C)

                  Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                  A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

                  Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                  Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

                  I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.

                  6 - Finau / Jacobson
                  7 - Papali’i
                  8 - Savea (C)

                  Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment

                  No Blackadder ? That’s not how things are done round here

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                    or Grace or MMT?

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      or Grace or MMT?

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:

                      MMT?

                      Did not kick on. Struggled to start for the Highlanders this year and has moved to Japan

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

                        Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

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                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                        I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                        Did he Though ? I am not sure that is correct from what I understand.

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                        • StagS Stag

                          @taniwharugby completely disagree, need to rip of the bandaid now and get a genuinely international class centre in place for 2027

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                          @Stag said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @taniwharugby completely disagree, need to rip of the bandaid now and get a genuinely international class centre in place for 2027

                          The only problem is we don't have a surfeit of options to waste Tests on if you don't like Rieko.

                          For much the same reason people got pissy when the AB coaches kept trying to find a blindside flanker.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                            I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                            Did he Though ? I am not sure that is correct from what I understand.

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                            I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                            Did he Though ? I am not sure that is correct from what I understand.

                            You confirmed it earlier this year?

                            @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            Yeah I heard about them meeting,Potential new AB Captain maybe or a switch in positions to 6.But not 100% sure.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @Stag said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @taniwharugby completely disagree, need to rip of the bandaid now and get a genuinely international class centre in place for 2027

                              The only problem is we don't have a surfeit of options to waste Tests on if you don't like Rieko.

                              For much the same reason people got pissy when the AB coaches kept trying to find a blindside flanker.

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                              @antipodean

                              Reiko will be 30 by the time the next WC rolls around not old for a centre,But he will lose some of his pace probably by then which is his major weapon.

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                I would think Razor is in a very good position as a selector to pick the 2024 squad.
                                For the last 7 years he has coached and coached against all the NZ players in SR,
                                He would have a good handle on players strengths which he would have had to combat and any weakness which he would be looking to exploit.
                                And knowing the same about the players he had coached.
                                I guess McDonald and Holland should also be aware of who fits into their vision of The ABs tactics and game shape.
                                For much the same reasons.

                                Ugh, I was happily looking forward to next year while reading this post until I got to here. 😉

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                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                I would think Razor is in a very good position as a selector to pick the 2024 squad.
                                For the last 7 years he has coached and coached against all the NZ players in SR,
                                He would have a good handle on players strengths which he would have had to combat and any weakness which he would be looking to exploit.
                                And knowing the same about the players he had coached.
                                I guess McDonald and Holland should also be aware of who fits into their vision of The ABs tactics and game shape.
                                For much the same reasons.

                                Ugh, I was happily looking forward to next year while reading this post until I got to here. 😉

                                I'm having serious doubts about Razor's ability to pick good assistants when I see Leon is going to be the attack coach.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  A lot of things will change during SR. Some teams will lose a lot of experience. Multiple teams with new coaches.

                                  Barrett is the likely captain. I recall Robertson had a meeting with Dalton when he got the job which is interesting.

                                  Dalton has a massive opportunity to get his hands on the 6 jumper. I thought he handled himself well in France. I see lots of spots in Razor's first AB team up for grabs for those who are good enough to take them

                                  I don’t want Papali’i playing blindside. He’s a very good openside that is growing into the role. He’s built up a fair amount of test experience too.

                                  6 - Finau / Jacobson
                                  7 - Papali’i
                                  8 - Savea (C)

                                  Cane could get the Thorne post-03 RWC treatment

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  6 - Finau / Jacobson

                                  Jacobson is best suited to no.8 and he very rarely plays 6 for the Chiefs.

                                  If Cane isn't selected I wouldn't mind seeing Harmon given an opportunity at 7.

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                                    I’d say something pretty catastrophic would need to occur for Ioane not to be there in 4 years time.

                                    We have the makings of a world class midfield. Razor and co just need to find ways to better utilise their skills. The challenge will be ensuring we have back ups that get experience without the drop off being too far.

                                    QT started to show promise prior to injury and I think a guy like McLeod who has size and a decent head on his shoulders could be ‘projects’ that the new coaches would work with.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      6 - Finau / Jacobson

                                      Jacobson is best suited to no.8 and he very rarely plays 6 for the Chiefs.

                                      If Cane isn't selected I wouldn't mind seeing Harmon given an opportunity at 7.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Jacobson is best suited to no.8 and he very rarely plays 6 for the Chiefs.

                                      he was meant to play in 2019 RWC but got concussion. Was reflecting how I don't think he's really kicked on - I really rate him, but he has not shone at Test level, and few seem to be on his bandwagon.

                                      Edit: I guess I'm saying 4 years is a long time and predicitons are bloody difficult

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        I’d say something pretty catastrophic would need to occur for Ioane not to be there in 4 years time.

                                        We have the makings of a world class midfield. Razor and co just need to find ways to better utilise their skills. The challenge will be ensuring we have back ups that get experience without the drop off being too far.

                                        QT started to show promise prior to injury and I think a guy like McLeod who has size and a decent head on his shoulders could be ‘projects’ that the new coaches would work with.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader McLeod provides great utility off the bench too. I'd even be tempted to have him on the left wing.

                                        Will Jordan can't even handle wing and people want him at fullback. He's a flash in the pan, flat track bully with not a lot of real rugby skill. Has he grown as a player in the last 4 years?

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          I would think Razor is in a very good position as a selector to pick the 2024 squad.
                                          For the last 7 years he has coached and coached against all the NZ players in SR,
                                          He would have a good handle on players strengths which he would have had to combat and any weakness which he would be looking to exploit.
                                          And knowing the same about the players he had coached.
                                          I guess McDonald and Holland should also be aware of who fits into their vision of The ABs tactics and game shape.
                                          For much the same reasons.

                                          Ugh, I was happily looking forward to next year while reading this post until I got to here. 😉

                                          I'm having serious doubts about Razor's ability to pick good assistants when I see Leon is going to be the attack coach.

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          I would think Razor is in a very good position as a selector to pick the 2024 squad.
                                          For the last 7 years he has coached and coached against all the NZ players in SR,
                                          He would have a good handle on players strengths which he would have had to combat and any weakness which he would be looking to exploit.
                                          And knowing the same about the players he had coached.
                                          I guess McDonald and Holland should also be aware of who fits into their vision of The ABs tactics and game shape.
                                          For much the same reasons.

                                          Ugh, I was happily looking forward to next year while reading this post until I got to here. 😉

                                          I'm having serious doubts about Razor's ability to pick good assistants when I see Leon is going to be the attack coach.

                                          Some people make better assistant coaches than Head Coache's,Leon did ok for the Crusaders under Razor it may work again.

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