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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    They must back themselves to get the best out of Perofeta. He's got the talent and his utility of 10/15 makes him a valuable squad member, but he's been very flaky mentally to date.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    They must back themselves to get the best out of Perofeta.

    He's a place-holder in the squad until Jordan returns. BB will start at fullback against England, and take that 10/15 cover role later in the year.

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      So when Blackadder injures himself in the first five mins of the first test, I hope Lakai has his bags packed.

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      • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

        They won how many in a row?

        All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

        (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

        So form means nothing. Got it.

        Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

        A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

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        @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

        They won how many in a row?

        All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

        (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

        So form means nothing. Got it.

        Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

        A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

        Nepo Laulala
        Ofa Tu’ungafasi
        Dalton Papali’i
        Finlay Christie
        Beauden Barrett
        Rieko Ioane
        Caleb Clarke
        Mark Telea

        Which of those had a legitimately better player miss out? Keep in mind I think Laulala offered zero outside of his scrummaging, but if you wanted a rock in that regard I could see why he was picked.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

          That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

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          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

          That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

          Leon McDonald was the outside back selector, Perofeta over Love was obviously his call & it's the only selection of the 32 that I disagree with - which isn't surprising because McDonald's selections at the Blues were consistently terrible.

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          • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

            They won how many in a row?

            All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

            (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

            So form means nothing. Got it.

            Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

            A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

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            @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

            I'd hoped we'd turned the page on that sort of shit.

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            • WingerW Winger

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

              if you add in

              Love, Darry, Bower and Havili. Its (I hope - need to check when time)

              Blues 9
              Crusaders 9
              Chiefs 9

              Canes who were top qualifier have 7 (inc Love)

              So, some obvious bias on Robertsons part. Will he be as bad as Deans for example? Time will tell

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              @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

              if you add in

              Love, Darry, Bower and Havili. Its (I hope - need to check when time)

              Blues 9
              Crusaders 9
              Chiefs 9

              Canes who were top qualifier have 7 (inc Love)

              So, some obvious bias on Robertsons part. Will he be as bad as Deans for example? Time will tell

              Add in Numia and Roigard later in the year and the Canes will have more eventually.

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              • R ruggabee

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

                That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

                Leon McDonald was the outside back selector, Perofeta over Love was obviously his call & it's the only selection of the 32 that I disagree with - which isn't surprising because McDonald's selections at the Blues were consistently terrible.

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                @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Canes4life the only thing I’ll say about Perofeta is that he was playing excellent footy under Rangi last season and given he has AB experience I think they will back themselves to try and get that best out of him.

                That's a reach. He was playing about the same as he was this season (when he wasn't injured) and his test experience is fuck all. A japan test where he looked poor and 30 seconds in another test

                Leon McDonald was the outside back selector, Perofeta over Love was obviously his call & it's the only selection of the 32 that I disagree with - which isn't surprising Leon's selections at the Blues were consistently terrible.

                Too many concussions in his playing career.

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                  alt text

                  dont think a pic of the list has been posted

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                    Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                    Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

                    Inclusivity pick.
                    At least 2% of the viewership are women.

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                      #3906

                      Havili shouldn't even be cover IMO. I don't mind the Bower cover choice but the Havili call shits me. Surely there is more reliable or fresh talent to build up. A J Lam for example.

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                      • Jailbreak7J Offline
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                        #3907

                        Still scratching my head over Bell, Perofeta. Not convinced by Beaudy either. Have to feel for Ricci, and Love. Whilst stoked for Sititi, gutted for Hoskins. Lakai and Iose's day will come. Agree this may point to Jordan coming back in for TRC.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                          Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                          JK's Blackadder reference went straight over her head. 🤣

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                            • FrankF Frank

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                              Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

                              Inclusivity pick.
                              At least 2% of the viewership are women.

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

                              Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

                              Inclusivity pick.
                              At least 2% of the viewership are women.

                              Way too many women who don’t know what they are talking about clogging up our pre game coverage these days. It’s massively off putting. And then add in Wheeler, Tenana etc. it’s pretty cringe.

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                                Holland on SENZ

                                Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                                I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                                Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

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                                  Any word on Taukei'aho's injury?

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Devlin nails it with Tosi

                                    Surely that was leaked to him.

                                    Out of interest, how many kegs is Tosi carrying these days?

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Out of interest, how many kegs is Tosi carrying these days?

                                    He said himself about 140.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Holland on SENZ

                                      Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                                      I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                                      Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Holland on SENZ

                                      Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                                      I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                                      Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

                                      lol, Sotutu was part of a team that dominated up front and had the best defence. Are they really trying to say the rest of the back row was covering for him.

                                      He was excellent in attack and defence for the Blues this year.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Holland on SENZ

                                        Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                                        I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                                        Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

                                        lol, Sotutu was part of a team that dominated up front and had the best defence. Are they really trying to say the rest of the back row was covering for him.

                                        He was excellent in attack and defence for the Blues this year.

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                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Holland on SENZ

                                        Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                                        I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                                        Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

                                        lol, Sotutu was part of a team that dominated up front and had the best defence. Are they really trying to say the rest of the back row was covering for him.

                                        He was excellent in attack and defence for the Blues this year.

                                        Pretty tough break for him. Razor has picked his team, he feels these guys will do the business, now they will have to because he's in the hot seat

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                                          Bizarre that all the Chiefs loose forwards were picked after getting so outplayed on Saturday.

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