All Blacks 2024

sparky

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

@sparky Not against England or Ireland. How many penalties against France? The dodgy neck-roll call?

I agreed with the neck-roll call. Yeah he had great games against England and Ireland. I don't have the figures to hand but I suspect he has been one of the most penalised ABs this year. If he can sort that out, he's world class.

Bones

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

Newell is mediocre in the scrum at test level

Is he? My impression was he'd been very solid and at least performed the role that the likes of Franks/Laulala were fabled to but never did.

Bones

@sparky I suspect you'd be quite wrong.

Tim

@Bones Gets pinged a lot coming off the bench. Tosi was a big upgrade.

Bones

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

@Bones Gets pinged a lot coming off the bench. Tosi was a big upgrade.

Gets pinged a lot in the scrum? Huh, interesting.

Tim

The Crusaders still have a shit coach, but at least they have cut Moody and Franks. Who will be the bench props now?

brodean

After watching AB XV games I'd be surprised to see any new props making the AB squad next year outside of injury

Chris

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

The Crusaders still have a shit coach, but at least they have cut Moody and Franks. Who will be the bench props now?

George Bower and Probably Brewis or Calder

KiwiMurph

Whilst Newell is a good scrummager - his scrummaging at test level doesn't seem to generate penalties the way it does at Super.

Given Newell is poor around the field I don't think the trade off is worth it at test level.

Canes4life

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

@Canes4life Who is most likely to play 6 for the Canes?

It depends where they see Delany, they will either play Delany at lock and have Flanders at 6, or they’ll play Delany at 6 and have Gallagher at lock. Flanders and Iose will share duties at 8.

Flanders and Shields will also cover 6 if Delany plays lock.

Bones

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

@Canes4life Who is most likely to play 6 for the Canes?

It depends where they see Delany, they will either play Delany at lock and have Flanders at 6, or they’ll play Delany at 6 and have Gallagher at lock. Flanders and Iose will share duties at 8.

Flanders and Shields will also cover 6 if Delany plays lock.

Would've liked to see Delaney at 6 more, but just don't think he plays the right mongrel type game and after Flanders' season am leaning more towards him.

Canes4life

@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

@Canes4life Who is most likely to play 6 for the Canes?

It depends where they see Delany, they will either play Delany at lock and have Flanders at 6, or they’ll play Delany at 6 and have Gallagher at lock. Flanders and Iose will share duties at 8.

Flanders and Shields will also cover 6 if Delany plays lock.

Would've liked to see Delaney at 6 more, but just don't think he plays the right mongrel type game and after Flanders' season am leaning more towards him.

Yeah, technically Delany is a very good player but I agree he might lack the mongrel to be a test 6. I wouldn’t mind seeing him get more time at 6 during Super to prove otherwise though, especially if the Canes see Zach Gallagher as one of their starting locks.

I tend to feel the same about Flanders, I feel like he has a good skill set but lacks a bit of mongrel.

Maybe next year is the coming of age for both of them, both coming into their prime years.

Personally I wouldn’t mind the Canes run with a loose trio of 6. Delany, 7. Lakai and 8. Flanders with Iose and Kirifi as impact.

Bones

@Canes4life My impression of Flanders in previous seasons was that he played pretty soft, but he appeared to make improvement this season.

MiketheSnow

Don't know if this has been posted anywhere.

if so, please delete

W32

Apologies if this question has been asked and answered - how many players have been used by razor this year?

Bones

@W32 said in All Blacks 2024:

Apologies if this question has been asked and answered - how many players have been used by razor this year?

Hey now, no need to start rumours.

ARHS

@W32 51 players. 42 played. 9 called in but not used.

taniwharugby

@ARHS how many new caps? 7 that I can think of?

Bell, Tosi, Sititi, Ratima, Love, Lakai & Plummer?

Which in itself isnt bad, but certainly seems many under-used, particularly the last 3.

sparky

@MiketheSnow This has been discussed on Exodus for a few days. Good for him, I don't think he was going to get any serious game time in Black while Robertson remains All Blacks coach.

KiwiMurph

@taniwharugby a few more than that. Proctor, Darry etc

But yes Love has a total of 22 minutes and Plummer has a total of 3 minutes.

The Silver Fern

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