All Blacks 2024
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I can understand wanting guys like Whitelock in and around the current crop of locks, but given we have Barrett currently who is vastly experienced, he is the one we should be looking to for bringing in the next generation through, Lord in particular is one I hope is fit and selected.
Frizell is a bit of a myth IMO, while Ryan rated him, this was presumably off the back of trainings and 1 very good game.
Assuming this is fact and not distorted.
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Reeks of a lack of confidence in the players available and his ability as a coach to improve players. Cantablacks looking more likely by the day.
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@Kirwan totally agree , Razor needs to b in NZ watching super , not fucking around trying to return the past
@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kirwan totally agree , Razor needs to b in NZ watching super , not fucking around trying to return the past
How do you know he is not watching Super?
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He ain't watching it LIVE in NZ
Why does he have to watch it live? Serious question. I bet he has access to a hell of a lot more coverage than we do.
I suppose if one is bothered by how things 'look' then yeah it's probably a better 'look' to be seen at matches. But I wonder how much they actually get from watching from the stands.
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Lol Frizzell returning. The guy played 33 tests over 6 years and did nothing more than a solid job in the last season or so.
Finau will end up twice the player if given an opportunity.
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He ain't watching it LIVE in NZ
Why does he have to watch it live? Serious question. I bet he has access to a hell of a lot more coverage than we do.
I suppose if one is bothered by how things 'look' then yeah it's probably a better 'look' to be seen at matches. But I wonder how much they actually get from watching from the stands.
@Crazy-Horse Hope Ur not serious?
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He ain't watching it LIVE in NZ
Why does he have to watch it live? Serious question. I bet he has access to a hell of a lot more coverage than we do.
I suppose if one is bothered by how things 'look' then yeah it's probably a better 'look' to be seen at matches. But I wonder how much they actually get from watching from the stands.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He ain't watching it LIVE in NZ
Why does he have to watch it live? Serious question. I bet he has access to a hell of a lot more coverage than we do.
I suppose if one is bothered by how things 'look' then yeah it's probably a better 'look' to be seen at matches. But I wonder how much they actually get from watching from the stands.
Because they usually watch individual players and not the TV Coverage. Should be watching it live.
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@SBW1 We have more than enough wingers in this country without needing to bring back Leicester Fai'anganuku, who played a grand total of 7 tests, which included Namibia and Uruguay.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SBW1 We have more than enough wingers in this country without needing to bring back Leicester Fai'anganuku, who played a grand total of 7 tests, which included Namibia and Uruguay.
But Sevu is leaving and Ennor is injured. Someone needs to backup McLeod and Springer
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SBW1 We have more than enough wingers in this country without needing to bring back Leicester Fai'anganuku, who played a grand total of 7 tests, which included Namibia and Uruguay.
But Sevu is leaving and Ennor is injured. Someone needs to backup McLeod and Springer
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@Duluth Oh shit sorry I'm in the wrong thread.
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We didn't win the last World Cup with these guys onboard, why are we bringing them back even older than they were before. Trust the guys you have playing in New Zealand Razor. What a crock of shit.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
We didn't win the last World Cup with these guys onboard, why are we bringing them back even older than they were before. Trust the guys you have playing in New Zealand Razor. What a crock of shit.
There's plenty of examples in AB history of an irreplaceable player being replaced. Give new players a chance and do some coaching
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Unfortunately it's the right thread
We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Unfortunately it's the right thread
We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players
I'm confused. Aren't the assistant coaches the ones doing the coaching?
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No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me -
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Unfortunately it's the right thread
We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players
I'm confused. Aren't the assistant coaches the ones doing the coaching?
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Unfortunately it's the right thread
We have an AB coach who doesn't want to coach new players
I'm confused. Aren't the assistant coaches the ones doing the coaching?
that entirely depends on the narrative you are pushing
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No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me@Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai as a stop gap measure until someone better comes along such as Holland to go with Barrett and Lord.
We have to play without Whitelock eventually, why not start the process now?
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@Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai as a stop gap measure until someone better comes along such as Holland to go with Barrett and Lord.
We have to play without Whitelock eventually, why not start the process now?
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris I agree with what you're saying, and I'm happy to have a Tuipulotu, Stange, Vaai as a stop gap measure until someone better comes along such as Holland to go with Barrett and Lord.
We have to play without Whitelock eventually, why not start the process now?
Maybe Whitelock in the environment they see valuable where they could add a youngster to the squad, who better to learn off than Whitelock
Maybe use him to bring on the younger locks bring them in to camp at times.
Maybe more to it than the playing side and maybe that is their thinking over BB.
All speculation but I see merits in it.
