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Black Caps v South Africa

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  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

    Over rates are just generally horrendous these days. Really noticeable at the ground in games where the "DJ" isn't blasting music constantly.

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Over rates are just generally horrendous these days. Really noticeable at the ground in games where the "DJ" isn't blasting music constantly.

    I agree and the Proteas are one of the worse at it.

    The game is built for TV viewing so lots of breaks. Then there’s the water, gloves and bat changes, tactically left /right combo decisions by teams meaning fielding changes more frequent.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

      Over rates are just generally horrendous these days. Really noticeable at the ground in games where the "DJ" isn't blasting music constantly.

      I agree and the Proteas are one of the worse at it.

      The game is built for TV viewing so lots of breaks. Then there’s the water, gloves and bat changes, tactically left /right combo decisions by teams meaning fielding changes more frequent.

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      @ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

      I agree and the Proteas are one of the worse at it.

      Our first WTC was built on the Aussies getting docked points for a slow over rate. I'm not big on schadenfreude, but goddamnit couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of sandpaper and spirit of cricket wielding blokes

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        83/6 The quality of the SA starting tos how through unfortunately.

        Only question now is whether to enforce the followon. Modern way is 'no' - but there's something to be said for the foot on the throat, provided the bowlers are in good shape. Only 34 overs so far...

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        @nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

        Only question now is whether to enforce the followon. Modern way is 'no' - but there's something to be said for the foot on the throat, provided the bowlers are in good shape. Only 34 overs so far...

        Yeah there's no workload issue yet

        It might be in NZ's interest to give Conway another bat with no match pressure on

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          I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

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          • voodooV voodoo

            I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

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            @voodoo it’s a World Cup year and it’s only the Tri Nations. Oops wrong sport…

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              Crikey, Santner beats the bat then gets an appeal for LBW.

              Go son ! Prove the haters wrong !

              EDIT: going upstairs for review, very close. Missing unfortunately

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                @voodoo it’s a World Cup year and it’s only the Tri Nations. Oops wrong sport…

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                @ACT-Crusader close enough to be honest 🎯 .

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                  I love Grant Elliot’s dulcet tones in the commentary box.

                  Macca McMillan is a good analyst too.

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

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                    @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                    I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

                    TLDR:

                    Previous chairman of SA cricket stole their money, the IPL teams then bought SA T20 teams and want a return on their investment, therefore top SA players need to play in the SA T20 league.

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                      If we can bowl them out for a lead of 300+, I'd still bat but just do a session or two of really attacking stuff for a quick 150-200 and then send them back in after drinks of whatever session we've reached.

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                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                        Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

                        I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

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                        @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                        Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

                        I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

                        He also got tried as the third seamer behind Southee and Boult which doesn't really suit him.

                        Opening the bowling he has sixty wickets at 27.83. For the other 15 wickets he averages 69.93.

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                          @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                          Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

                          I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

                          He also got tried as the third seamer behind Southee and Boult which doesn't really suit him.

                          Opening the bowling he has sixty wickets at 27.83. For the other 15 wickets he averages 69.93.

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                          @LABCAT said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                          @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                          Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

                          I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

                          He also got tried as the third seamer behind Southee and Boult which doesn't really suit him.

                          Opening the bowling he has sixty wickets at 27.83. For the other 15 wickets he averages 69.93.

                          Amazing how that that works out really, Wagner has similar stats showing he is much better as the 4th seamer/second change than anywhere else.

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                            Santner strikes !

                            Spin pressure at both ends paying dividends !

                            Glenn Philips playing as a specialist number seven batsman by the looks of things

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                              Given how many overs gone, I'd bat again when we eventually snaffle the last 3 wickets. Set 500 and see what happens

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                                @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

                                TLDR:

                                Previous chairman of SA cricket stole their money, the IPL teams then bought SA T20 teams and want a return on their investment, therefore top SA players need to play in the SA T20 league.

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                                @LABCAT said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

                                TLDR:

                                Previous chairman of SA cricket stole their money, the IPL teams then bought SA T20 teams and want a return on their investment, therefore top SA players need to play in the SA T20 league.

                                Thanks mate

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                                • voodooV voodoo

                                  @LABCAT said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                  @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                  I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

                                  TLDR:

                                  Previous chairman of SA cricket stole their money, the IPL teams then bought SA T20 teams and want a return on their investment, therefore top SA players need to play in the SA T20 league.

                                  Thanks mate

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                                  @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                  @LABCAT said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                  @voodoo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                  I haven't been following, but why have these pricks sent park cricketers to play us?

                                  TLDR:

                                  Previous chairman of SA cricket stole their money, the IPL teams then bought SA T20 teams and want a return on their investment, therefore top SA players need to play in the SA T20 league.

                                  Thanks mate

                                  aka, SA scheduling stuffed up, scheduled a clash with T20 comp and NZ refused to shift the tour (not unreasonable given it's our summer and Aus are next). End result, contract signed that htey couldn't get out of ... and that means we get a C cricket team.

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                                    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                    Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

                                    I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

                                    Excellent first class record but I thought with the three seamers being ensconced in the team and Jamieson emerging he’d run out of chances but he has come back and done brilliantly.

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                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                    Henry really struggled early in his career when he was the cover bower and just got random tests here and there, never managed to find good rhythm. Probably got a little unlucky in that those tests also happened to be tough conditions, but also wasn't good enough in those games to force himself into the starting lineup.

                                    I'm glad he's done well though. He's always looked so good domestically, I had always thought that with a decent run he'd find himself.

                                    Excellent first class record but I thought with the three seamers being ensconced in the team and Jamieson emerging he’d run out of chances but he has come back and done brilliantly.

                                    His stints in English county cricket for Somerset/Kent/Worcestershire has helped him mature in to a decent bowler these days

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                                      Another 50 for Kane.

                                      On the radio they were discussing whether we should fiddle our order. The rationale was to let Phillips/Blundell or even Mitchell have a go might give them some time in the middle. Ravindra does not need any more time in the middle or so the argument goes.

                                      SA just burn a review on an LBW which hit so far outside the line it might have been outside a second set of stumps.

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                                      • DamoD Damo

                                        Another 50 for Kane.

                                        On the radio they were discussing whether we should fiddle our order. The rationale was to let Phillips/Blundell or even Mitchell have a go might give them some time in the middle. Ravindra does not need any more time in the middle or so the argument goes.

                                        SA just burn a review on an LBW which hit so far outside the line it might have been outside a second set of stumps.

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                                        @Damo said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                        Another 50 for Kane.

                                        On the radio they were discussing whether we should fiddle our order. The rationale was to let Phillips/Blundell or even Mitchell have a go might give them some time in the middle. Ravindra does not need any more time in the middle or so the argument goes.

                                        SA just burn a review on an LBW which hit so far outside the line it might have been outside a second set of stumps.

                                        Makes sense to me if we even bother. I'd say hit out and put them in before end of day, but we're probably past that now.

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                                          Conway gets a life. He's struggling big time. Richardson trying hard to make it sound like the saffa keeper didn't just fuck up a sitter

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