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All Blacks vs England I

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  • Windows97W Offline
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    Would have liked to see us be a bit more adventerous and have a loose forward trio of Finau, Savea at 7 and Sititi but can understand the selection. Finau, Papps and Savea is a good line up.

    TJ back in the team is great for the autobiography but a step backwards for the AB's I feel, would have been better as an impact player to help close out games rather than starting by throwing the ball at DMac's ankles for 60 minutes but we'll see how he goes.

    Perofeta I've never been overly sold on so will be interesting to watch him play.

    Overall a good squad, understandable selections albiet conservative.

    If I was England I'd put pressure on TJ and the first reciever and bomb Perofeta all day till he cracks.

    But looking forward to this team playing and what sytle Robertson brings.

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      Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

      Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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        This year's SR most exciting players are not among the 23 for various reasons (Numia, Sititi, Sotutu, Roigard, Ratima, Proctor, Love). Perofeta aside, this first 23 looks solid but rather meh, IMO.

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

          Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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          @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

          Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

          Foster would 100% have started Beauden.

          He would have started Cane, if that was an option. As captain.

          He seemed to strongly favour Vaa'i over Tuipolotu.

          I'm not sure he would have started Reece either.

          Definitely Blackadder, but is he fit?

          Towards the end Foster started to get the team mostly right (forced by injuries generally) so really it isn't a surprise that the team isn't radically different. The game plan is what will matter, not the personnel. That is particularly important with DMc, who he never really had a game plan for at all.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

            Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

            I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

            Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

            Who is fucking bitching I mention he is a potential Red card and he will be.
            I would still pick him I like his intimation factor now you are circling the Chiefs wagons Sir Duke.

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              50/50

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

                Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

                Who is fucking bitching I mention he is a potential Red card and he will be.
                I would still pick him I like his intimation factor now you are circling the Chiefs wagons Sir Duke.

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                @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

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                • Dan54D Dan54

                  @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

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                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

                  I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

                  I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

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                  • frugbyF frugby

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

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                    Can't help but feel DMac looks like a vicar with his top button done up and collar folded over.

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                    @frugby

                    Father McKenzie!?

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                      #386

                      Pretty much continuity-Foster as expected, which is understandable in many ways.

                      Perofeta a surprise but makes sense if they think BB is lacking big-match fitness. Worry he's a bit flaky but let's see how he goes. Could be just holding the paper bag until Jordan returns.

                      As other have said, how they play will be something to watch. I don't expect too much change there either.

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                        Very disappointed to see Perenara and Christie in the same 23 but otherwise it's about as good as we currently have on offer. Wouldn't have minded seeing ALB/Proctor at centre with Ioane on the bench but not surprised.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          Any word on injuries?

                          Blackadder I assume

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                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          Any word on injuries?

                          Blackadder I assume

                          :astonished_face:

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350331522/why-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-demoted-veteran-beauden-barrett

                            Scott ‘both sides of the ball’ Robertson talking up Sevu Reece

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              Finau does like to fold backs in half, and there is always risk associated with that if he gets it slightly wrong. And in the modern game, with fans always baying for cards, particularly if it's big man vs little man, it's going to end in yellow or red sooner rather than later. Cards have been a huge issue for the ABs recently so I am hoping this current coaching group can get that part right across the board, not just with Finau.

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                              @No-Quarter So long as folding them at waist, worst case penalty.

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                                #391

                                Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                Ofa - Blues
                                Scooter - Saders
                                Jordie - Canes
                                Cane - Chiefs

                                This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

                                  I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

                                  I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

                                  I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

                                  I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

                                  To be honest there has basically been none over here. He was seen as doing what we have always applauded as a 6, hitting 10s hard! I do think 1 was a tad late, but nowhere as bad as what was made out by Aua press!

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                    Ofa - Blues
                                    Scooter - Saders
                                    Jordie - Canes
                                    Cane - Chiefs

                                    This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                    Ofa - Blues
                                    Scooter - Saders
                                    Jordie - Canes
                                    Cane - Chiefs

                                    This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                                    I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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                                      I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                                      Good shit

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                                        Good shit

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                                        Good shit

                                        Yup me too, love it. Hope it continues.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                                          Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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                                          chchfanatic
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                                          @Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
                                          He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
                                          The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

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