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All Blacks vs England I

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350331522/why-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-demoted-veteran-beauden-barrett

    Scott ‘both sides of the ball’ Robertson talking up Sevu Reece

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      Finau does like to fold backs in half, and there is always risk associated with that if he gets it slightly wrong. And in the modern game, with fans always baying for cards, particularly if it's big man vs little man, it's going to end in yellow or red sooner rather than later. Cards have been a huge issue for the ABs recently so I am hoping this current coaching group can get that part right across the board, not just with Finau.

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      @No-Quarter So long as folding them at waist, worst case penalty.

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        #391

        Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

        Ofa - Blues
        Scooter - Saders
        Jordie - Canes
        Cane - Chiefs

        This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

          I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

          I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

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          @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @Chris I know you weren't against Finau mate, but genuinely every player is a red card risk really with the laws as they are. I not convinced that Finau is anymore a risk than any other forward really!

          I think he is a bit more with all that stupid negative stuff in the Australian media after a couple of hits has blown up and highlighted it.

          I hope he doesn't get red carded I want to win test matches.

          To be honest there has basically been none over here. He was seen as doing what we have always applauded as a 6, hitting 10s hard! I do think 1 was a tad late, but nowhere as bad as what was made out by Aua press!

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

            Ofa - Blues
            Scooter - Saders
            Jordie - Canes
            Cane - Chiefs

            This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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            #393

            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

            Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

            Ofa - Blues
            Scooter - Saders
            Jordie - Canes
            Cane - Chiefs

            This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

            I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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              I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

              Good shit

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                Good shit

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                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                Good shit

                Yup me too, love it. Hope it continues.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                  Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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                  @Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
                  He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
                  The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                    Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

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                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                    No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                    Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                    Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                      Good shit

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                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      I like Razor having a proper press conference with journos on team naming and not a premade internally produced video.

                      Good shit

                      That's been the standard for many years? Foster and co did the exact same thing.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                        Ofa - Blues
                        Scooter - Saders
                        Jordie - Canes
                        Cane - Chiefs

                        This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                        I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                        Beauden's yellow card was the turning point in the last game.

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                          @Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
                          He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
                          The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

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                          @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          @Kirwan pretty similar to foster because they’re the best players in the country.
                          He can’t just pluck All blacks out of thin air.
                          The only real contentious positions are Halfback and fullback. Roigard and Jordan would be there if fit.

                          Not the best six, they chased him off.

                          I wouldn’t have gone with TJ either, or Perofeta. DMac may be the best ten in NZ but not convinced about him yet. Feels like an impact player to me.

                          So meh.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                            No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                            Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                            Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                            No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                            Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                            Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

                            And Ardie? If Perofeta gets in over BB for that reason, why isn’t Sititi starting? If he’s not ready to start, why didn’t they pick Sotutu.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                              Beauden's yellow card was the turning point in the last game.

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                              Beauden's yellow card was the turning point in the last game.

                              In hindsight Beaudie taking the drop goal 3 wasn't the best option either in that game. The issue with taking 3 in that scenario is with the kick off you end up back in your own half from the following restart. Would have been better off keeping England pinned back in their own half.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                Ofa - Blues
                                Scooter - Saders
                                Jordie - Canes
                                Cane - Chiefs

                                This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                                I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

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                                @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                Ofa - Blues
                                Scooter - Saders
                                Jordie - Canes
                                Cane - Chiefs

                                This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                                I think it’s a good reason not to select Beauden Barrett and why he’s on the bench. Brain fades tend to run in the family

                                Robertson's rolled the dice with Scooter in that regard. Could be the making of him though.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  Pretty similar to a Foster team IMO, understandable with the short lead up but still feels a bit meh.

                                  No unexpected. And BB would have probably got the nod over Perofeta if he'd played some more competitive rugby recently.

                                  Hope to see a better game plan, but I suspect we are going to see kick and hope, and tackle the counter attack.

                                  Just hope we don't get the same appallingly bad forwards performance we saw the last time we played England.

                                  And Ardie? If Perofeta gets in over BB for that reason, why isn’t Sititi starting? If he’s not ready to start, why didn’t they pick Sotutu.

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                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  why isn’t Sititi starting

                                  Experience, I'd suggest. SP has been around the AB's for some time and Wallace hasn't. It'd be a bit weird if he's doesn't get a cap in the next two Tests though.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                    Ofa - Blues
                                    Scooter - Saders
                                    Jordie - Canes
                                    Cane - Chiefs

                                    This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

                                    Ofa - Blues
                                    Scooter - Saders
                                    Jordie - Canes
                                    Cane - Chiefs

                                    This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

                                    Um, yes it is!

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350331522/why-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-demoted-veteran-beauden-barrett

                                      Scott ‘both sides of the ball’ Robertson talking up Sevu Reece

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                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350331522/why-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-demoted-veteran-beauden-barrett

                                      Scott ‘both sides of the ball’ Robertson talking up Sevu Reece

                                      this is just cruel!

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                                      • Landers92L Landers92

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        Some changes for the second test!

                                        https://www.instagram.com/p/C8-xdZxS_Wt/?igsh=dmtpNnd3NjgzZzlk

                                        For to even be in the environment is very interesting to say the least…

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                                        @Landers92 understand Haig being there. Unsure about Gilbert

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.

                                          Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                          Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

                                          we live in debauched, effeminate times. Gone are the days when you only got red for having the temerity to be the best player on a team that was beating the ABs AND you laid the (legal) tackle of the decade on the AB ten.

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