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All Blacks vs England 2

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    #91

    You can understand the Hotham decision but by god it gives the punters even more ammunition when it comes to the bias debate… we knew it was going to be interesting when it came to fringe/future players but this really comes across a bit fishy. From Razor and Hansons perspective, Knows the player = safe selection.

    Hotham is a good player, but hopefully this is just as it’s stated(injury cover for now). It certainly leads you to believe he will be picked either on the end of year tour or next season though, the TJ injury just accelerates that process.

    I do feel for Funaki and Fakatava. One thing is for sure though, there is a shit load of halfback depth in the country right now. You could even add Pledger coming through in the u20’s to that list.

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      Machpants
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      Funaki is definitely a better player, and has had more game/big game experience, esp recently. I reckon it is a bit of a bullshit call, very open to bias

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

        This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

        This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

        What contribution did Hotham make to those titles?

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          ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
          Blackadder 6
          Savea 7
          Sititi 8
          Ratima start, Christie on the bench

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

            This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

            What contribution did Hotham make to those titles?

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            taniwharugby
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            @Tim he watched them?

            Good to see the old provincial lines repainted recently though.

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            • StagS Stag

              ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
              Blackadder 6
              Savea 7
              Sititi 8
              Ratima start, Christie on the bench

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              george33
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              #96

              @Stag it's Eden park, not the local playground silly calls

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                ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
                Blackadder 6
                Savea 7
                Sititi 8
                Ratima start, Christie on the bench

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                #97

                @Stag said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
                Blackadder 6
                Savea 7
                Sititi 8
                Ratima start, Christie on the bench

                i'd love to see 7 savea 8 Sititi and personally id give Finau another shot at 6.....but i think theyve made it quite clear savea is an 8 as far as theyre concerned

                and i think Ioane gets back in (as much as i want to see proctor)...home ground, incumbent with eden park record etc....

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                  Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

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                  • TimT Offline
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                    https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350334741/all-blacks-need-touch-vern-cotters-blues-kill-englands-rush-defence

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                      ABs should be much better this week. Inability to break down rush defence still a concern.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        TJ is out for a couple of weeks - Hotham called in as cover.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334278/all-blacks-summon-uncapped-crusaders-halfback-noah-hotham

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                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                        TJ is out for a couple of weeks - Hotham called in as cover.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350334278/all-blacks-summon-uncapped-crusaders-halfback-noah-hotham

                        That’s a meteoric rise for the lad or as I like to call it Noah’s arc.

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          Noah Hotham?

                          I suspect he may be close to getting picked. Not saying I would select him, but when he started looking like he belonged in Super Rugby this year he showed a handy running game, a crisp pass and the ability to clear under pressure.

                          He could be the backline selection version of Bell.

                          Yep NZR said begiining of last year they had tabs on Hotham!

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                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          Noah Hotham?

                          I suspect he may be close to getting picked. Not saying I would select him, but when he started looking like he belonged in Super Rugby this year he showed a handy running game, a crisp pass and the ability to clear under pressure.

                          He could be the backline selection version of Bell.

                          Yep NZR said begiining of last year they had tabs on Hotham!

                          That would seem like a fairly stupid thing for "NZR" to say, whatever that means. Since when does "NZR" comment on up and coming players?

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                            https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350334741/all-blacks-need-touch-vern-cotters-blues-kill-englands-rush-defence

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350334741/all-blacks-need-touch-vern-cotters-blues-kill-englands-rush-defence

                            Jeez if only we, as media and fans, had seen this, then we wouldn't have been struggling with the rush for the last decade! I'm sure there is more to it, but it does seem blindingly obvious

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                              Funaki is definitely a better player, and has had more game/big game experience, esp recently. I reckon it is a bit of a bullshit call, very open to bias

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              Funaki is definitely a better player, and has had more game/big game experience, esp recently. I reckon it is a bit of a bullshit call, very open to bias

                              Add to it, they're going to be in Auckland, you know, where Funaki actually lives and plays? Someone who was a big part of a super dominant team and didn't just play a couple of decent games towards the end of the season after stinking it up at the start.

                              Funaki would be exactly who you bring in as injury cover. This is getting silly now.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

                                DOUBLE MOTHER FUCKIN LIKE

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

                                  DOUBLE MOTHER FUCKIN LIKE

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                                  george33
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                                  @Frank they won't take 5 halfbacks, obviously

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                                    @Frank they won't take 5 halfbacks, obviously

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                                    @george33
                                    Roigard is going if fit mate - lock him in.

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                                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

                                      DOUBLE MOTHER FUCKIN LIKE

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                                      @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

                                      DOUBLE MOTHER FUCKIN LIKE

                                      Honestly I was hoping he'd be back earlier

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                                        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

                                        DOUBLE MOTHER FUCKIN LIKE

                                        Honestly I was hoping he'd be back earlier

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                                        @Machpants
                                        Yeah, earlier the better.
                                        Quicker pass than Christie and Perenara, total nightmare to defend against around the fringes, and massive and accurate boot.

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                                          @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

                                          DOUBLE MOTHER FUCKIN LIKE

                                          Honestly I was hoping he'd be back earlier

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                                          #110

                                          @Machpants Sounded like best case was a few games for Counties in the NPC.

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