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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @Nepia and jordan might prove to not be up to it at international level...but i find it frustrating when when guys get one game (in this case a tough one against SA)...and thenBB gets yest another shot even though he wasn;t much better

    give them 3-4 games before rotating

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    @Kiwiwomble
    It is. But Jordan to wing is mainly because Telea and Reece kind of suck.

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    • FrankF Frank

      @Kiwiwomble
      It is. But Jordan to wing is mainly because Telea and Reece kind of suck.

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      @Frank which is fair....but some get to play their way into form...and other get chopped and changed around

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      • Windows97W Windows97

        Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

        Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

        Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

        At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

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        @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

        Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

        Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

        At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

        Absolutely definitely without doubt a must win game. No coach wants to lose the first Bledisloe ever. Maybe new talent in game 2.

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          If it wasn't Reece or Telea, the only other bench option was Havili. Plummer/Perofeta wouldn't be included with DMac and BB already in the XV.

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            Rubbish backrow, TJ, Jacobson and Reece on the bench is a bit crap. Same Meh as the last few selections.

            Ardie and Jordie are VERY lucky, neither have been in great form.

            Weaker team this time so we should win by 30+ and all the coaches will say look, see, we were right! Then we'll get owned on the EOYT.

            As predictable as it was earlier in the season when this stupid squad was selected.

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            • Windows97W Windows97

              Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

              Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

              Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

              At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

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              @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

              Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

              Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

              At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

              Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

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              • N Nevorian

                @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                Absolutely definitely without doubt a must win game. No coach wants to lose the first Bledisloe ever. Maybe new talent in game 2.

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                @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                Absolutely definitely without doubt a must win game. No coach wants to lose the first Bledisloe ever. Maybe new talent in game 2.

                is it though? In the modern rugby environment, this is about as close to a nothing game as you can get. If we lose, we don't lose the Bledisloe, in fact we get a test at home to retain it. We can't win the RC. We are playing the 9th ranked team in the world, which in the recent past would see a veritable "B" team rolled out.

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                • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                  @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                  Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                  Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                  At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                  Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

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                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                  Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                  Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                  At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                  Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

                  Exactly my point, it doesn't appear that anything has changed.

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                  • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                    Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                    Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                    At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                    Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

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                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                    Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                    Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                    At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                    Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

                    Probably πŸ™‚ - but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                      Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                      Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                      At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                      Absolutely definitely without doubt a must win game. No coach wants to lose the first Bledisloe ever. Maybe new talent in game 2.

                      is it though? In the modern rugby environment, this is about as close to a nothing game as you can get. If we lose, we don't lose the Bledisloe, in fact we get a test at home to retain it. We can't win the RC. We are playing the 9th ranked team in the world, which in the recent past would see a veritable "B" team rolled out.

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                      Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                      Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                      At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                      Absolutely definitely without doubt a must win game. No coach wants to lose the first Bledisloe ever. Maybe new talent in game 2.

                      is it though? In the modern rugby environment, this is about as close to a nothing game as you can get. If we lose, we don't lose the Bledisloe, in fact we get a test at home to retain it. We can't win the RC. We are playing the 9th ranked team in the world, which in the recent past would see a veritable "B" team rolled out.

                      agreed...scrambling to win a bit of a dead rubber just to save some face...is a bit weak

                      especially as theyre not bring Sir Richie and DC out of retirement to win it...the safe option is to role out some guys largely out of form just because "experience"

                      question, what are the rules re the squad? are the actually bound by who they named originally?

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        Rubbish backrow, TJ, Jacobson and Reece on the bench is a bit crap. Same Meh as the last few selections.

                        Ardie and Jordie are VERY lucky, neither have been in great form.

                        Weaker team this time so we should win by 30+ and all the coaches will say look, see, we were right! Then we'll get owned on the EOYT.

                        As predictable as it was earlier in the season when this stupid squad was selected.

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                        @Kirwan

                        Seems likely.

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                          brodean
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                          Why is Clarke the only in form wing in the ABs environment?

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                            Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                            Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                            At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                            Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

                            Probably πŸ™‚ - but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.

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                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                            Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                            Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                            At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                            Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

                            Probably πŸ™‚ - but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.

                            Oh come on, Aumua is hardly a newbie haha. Sititi and Tosi are injury enforced and Darry wasn't even used last week.

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                              kidcalder
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                              Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
                              Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
                              Joe Schmitt is no fool

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                                If the game is close, that's a pretty big inditement on the coaching and selection.

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                                  Absolutely

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    Beaudy straight back in to fullback.

                                    Dont really get it myself.

                                    Id love him to prove me wrong but his goose looked cooked a long time ago.

                                    I wonder if Love would have started if he was available.

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    Beaudy straight back in to fullback.

                                    Dont really get it myself.

                                    Id love him to prove me wrong but his goose looked cooked a long time ago.

                                    I wonder if Love would have started if he was available.

                                    Looks and sounds like it may have been on the bench in the 23 jersey(which Reece now has). If not, I know the idea was a game next weekend in Wellington if all went well this weekend coming.

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                                    • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                                      Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                                      Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                                      At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                                      Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

                                      Probably πŸ™‚ - but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.

                                      Oh come on, Aumua is hardly a newbie haha. Sititi and Tosi are injury enforced and Darry wasn't even used last week.

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                                      Chris B.
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                                      @African-Monkey Aumua's had 4 test starts.

                                      The others are all playing in this game.

                                      Maybe we should have picked Eddie Jones and Mark the Hammer as our coaches - these were guys who knew how to have a good cleanout! πŸ™‚

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                                      • K kidcalder

                                        Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
                                        Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
                                        Joe Schmitt is no fool

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                                        @kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
                                        Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
                                        Joe Schmitt is no fool

                                        The two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
                                          Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
                                          Joe Schmitt is no fool

                                          The two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          Throwing this out there...Aussie could surprise us here- maybe not win ...probably not win but push us all the way.
                                          Forget them v Pumas they won the first and got ahead of themselves - they will be up v us and might see us as fragile as them.
                                          Joe Schmitt is no fool

                                          The two weeks between this and the disgrace of giving up will have had them develop a siege mentality about proving they're not mentally weak/ doing the jersey justice/ line in the sand etc.

                                          especially after the northern hemisphere had a real crack at them after that last loss as well

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