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All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

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  • Landers92L Landers92

    You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chance he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

    I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

    I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

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      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

      I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

      I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

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      @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

      I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

      I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

      I'd argue DH isn't real 12 cover either.... Or will he continue to dine out on one game in Joburg about 3 years ago

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        @ABStats

        Without breakdown stats this is fairly meaningless when it comes to 7s.

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        • Landers92L Landers92

          Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

          Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

          If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

          Backline for this weekend as follows.

          1. T.Perenara
          2. B.Barrett
          3. C.Clarke
          4. A. Lienart-Brown
          5. R.Ioane
          6. S.Reece
          7. W.Jordan

          Bench
          21. C.Ratima
          22. D.Mckenzie
          23. D.Havili

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          @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

          Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

          If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

          Backline for this weekend as follows.

          1. T.Perenara
          2. B.Barrett
          3. C.Clarke
          4. A. Lienart-Brown
          5. R.Ioane
          6. S.Reece
          7. W.Jordan

          Bench
          21. C.Ratima
          22. D.Mckenzie
          23. D.Havili

          Billy Proctor the obvious omission.

          And with so many changes if the backline doesn’t hit the heights of first half of Bled One it will be near impossible to establish what caused the diminution.

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          • Landers92L Landers92

            You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chance he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

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            • Landers92L Landers92

              Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

              Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

              If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

              Backline for this weekend as follows.

              1. T.Perenara
              2. B.Barrett
              3. C.Clarke
              4. A. Lienart-Brown
              5. R.Ioane
              6. S.Reece
              7. W.Jordan

              Bench
              21. C.Ratima
              22. D.Mckenzie
              23. D.Havili

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              @Landers92 if Patty T fit then feel he ought to be on bench. Any word on Vaa’i shoulder?

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              • canefanC canefan

                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

                I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

                I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

                I'd argue DH isn't real 12 cover either.... Or will he continue to dine out on one game in Joburg about 3 years ago

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                @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

                I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

                I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

                I'd argue DH isn't real 12 cover either.... Or will he continue to dine out on one game in Joburg about 3 years ago

                He’s started there at Super level this year though, I’m sure. And has multiple tests at 12 in black. And is a Crusader.

                I’m not supporting it, I just think that proctor still has the issue of being a specialist in a position where a bench spot really needs capability to play both.

                However, I would have had both Plummer and Proctor on the bench for this game - that covers both.

                They could then just rest Dmac and give the young guys time out there.

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                  So the plan to improve the last 20 minutes is to have two inferior players (Beauden and TJ) play the first 60.
                  Genius!!!

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                  • Landers92L Landers92

                    Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                    Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                    If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                    Backline for this weekend as follows.

                    1. T.Perenara
                    2. B.Barrett
                    3. C.Clarke
                    4. A. Lienart-Brown
                    5. R.Ioane
                    6. S.Reece
                    7. W.Jordan

                    Bench
                    21. C.Ratima
                    22. D.Mckenzie
                    23. D.Havili

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                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                    T.Perenara
                    B.Barrett
                    C.Clarke
                    A. Lienart-Brown
                    R.Ioane
                    S.Reece
                    W.Jordan
                    Bench
                    21. C.Ratima
                    22. D.Mckenzie
                    23. D.Havili

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                    This is officially the point my honey moon period for Razor is over. WTAF. It's back to the future, the future being the same shit as Foz

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                      Does anyone need any further evidence of huge, blatant Crusader bias now? A lot of posters on here assured us that Razor was above that.

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                        I'm actually angry. With Foster I expected nothing else, a shit SR coach, hanging on the coat tails of better coaches. Following exactly the same game that was proven since 17 ish onwards to not be effective. Razor, clean slate, innovative and certainly had an idea at SR level, has fallen back into picking players that are not at all performing for no reason apart from 'caps'. Jesus Christ, I didn't expect JC, but at least some innovation and forward looking picks.
                        I am FUCKING PISSED.* Big Canes fan, love TJ, Ardie, BB - but I can see they are so fucking gone from this level. Add to this adding shit that have never been good like whomever that fucking cantab winger replacing a midfielder is. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

                        *If sauce is good.

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                          I'm actually angry. With Foster I expected nothing else, a shit SR coach, hanging on the coat tails of better coaches. Following exactly the same game that was proven since 17 ish onwards to not be effective. Razor, clean slate, innovative and certainly had an idea at SR level, has fallen back into picking players that are not at all performing for no reason apart from 'caps'. Jesus Christ, I didn't expect JC, but at least some innovation and forward looking picks.
                          I am FUCKING PISSED.* Big Canes fan, love TJ, Ardie, BB - but I can see they are so fucking gone from this level. Add to this adding shit that have never been good like whomever that fucking cantab winger replacing a midfielder is. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

                          *If sauce is good.

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                          @Machpants Five pints in?

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                            @Machpants Five pints in?

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                            @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            @Machpants Five pints in?

                            7 or so yes.

                            Doesn't make it less valid

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                              Havili on the bench is a disgrace. I’ll leave it at that.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                Havili on the bench is a disgrace. I’ll leave it at that.

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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                Havili on the bench is a disgrace. I’ll leave it at that.

                                Yeah but he’s ‘experienced’

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                  Havili on the bench is a disgrace. I’ll leave it at that.

                                  Yeah but he’s ‘experienced’

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                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                  Havili on the bench is a disgrace. I’ll leave it at that.

                                  Yeah but he’s ‘experienced’

                                  Experienced at being shit.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                    Havili on the bench is a disgrace. I’ll leave it at that.

                                    Yeah but he’s ‘experienced’

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                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                    Havili on the bench is a disgrace. I’ll leave it at that.

                                    Yeah but he’s ‘experienced’

                                    So's a 50+ year old prostitute, still not great...

                                    ..allegedly

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      Does anyone need any further evidence of huge, blatant Crusader bias now? A lot of posters on here assured us that Razor was above that.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      Does anyone need any further evidence of huge, blatant Crusader bias now? A lot of posters on here assured us that Razor was above that.

                                      A wasted opportunity to develop his squad in a Test which is in reality a soft game. Instead he's gone for old hands who likely won't be around in 12-18 months. We could end up winning and learning nothing.

                                      Just fucking awful.

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                                        That leaked backline fits the MO of how this regime likes to select

                                        A real missed opportunity to give Hotham, Proctor and Plummer a run.

                                        As a 10 Beauden has been on the slide for 5 years or so but it doesn't seem to make any difference because he's locked in as the next option at 10. Except when he's unwell and then they give the other option 3 minutes.

                                        Does Razor realise Proctor is in the squad?

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                                          Ok if that is the confirmed list then "disappointed" isn't even strong enough.

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