NPC 2025
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@Mauss Thought-provoking as always, thank you mate.
A player like Tupou-Ta'eiloa, despite limitations in some areas, can be such a hugely effective part of a team with strengths like that if they're used well. A low-error rate with go-forward is gold. I always find myself mentally matching up the 'possession lost' vs 'possession won' to form a sort of a net position on a player's effect on possession for the team, so would be interested in seeing how many 'turnovers won' for a guy like that vs some of the other contenders.
George Bell is looking very promising this year, and that is a hell of a lot of involvements per game.
On the wingers, while I quite like Fineanganofo, I'm not sure about his top-end pace for the higher level. Guys like Lowe operate well in traffic and while he bounces around and makes valuable metres, I would think it is not many metres made per defender beaten, because he's never going to take an outside break and gas the defence - very effective for the bay because of how they use him, but not the attributes I see as key for a top winger. Fihaki I feel the same about, he has a lot of positive attributes, but I tihnk he should just move to midfield asap if he aspires to a higher level. -
the public have had their say and Josh Jacomb has come up Trumps! Dan I know you'll be pleased mate
Bunnings Provincial Rugby
The people have spoken 🗣️ Listeners of Afternoons with Staffy on Sport Nation NZ have named their Bunnings NPC Team of the Season, with Josh Jacomb taking home MVP honours after a breakout campaign...
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@reprobate said in NPC 2025:
A player like Tupou-Ta'eiloa, despite limitations in some areas, can be such a hugely effective part of a team with strengths like that if they're used well. A low-error rate with go-forward is gold. I always find myself mentally matching up the 'possession lost' vs 'possession won' to form a sort of a net position on a player's effect on possession for the team, so would be interested in seeing how many 'turnovers won' for a guy like that vs some of the other contenders.
If you’re interested in comparing turnovers won, the RugbyPass NPC stats page actually has a pretty decent feature for that, where you can compare individual players, including how many turnovers they’ve won. For example, if you want to compare Tupou-Ta’eiloa to someone like Flanders, you’d get this kind of overview:
(link: https://www.rugbypass.com/bunnings-npc/stats/)So Flanders clearly has an edge when it comes to winning possession back, despite turning the ball over more regularly.
I also find it quite interesting how, based on this kind of presentation, you’d think Flanders had a much better season. But the comparison isn’t really fair because Flanders played two more games than Tupou-Ta’eiloa (quarters and semi), which obviously inflates the former’s numbers. Still interesting though, of course, and Flanders had a very good NPC campaign.
Agreed about the wingers. Tangitau has had a mixed season for Auckland but he’s the kind of guy who might make a real fist of it at the next level so good that they’re giving him an opportunity with the AB XV. But I’m quite high on guys like Fineanganofo and Taumoefolau as well: they might not have Tangitau’s pace but they have a range of ways they can impact a game, I feel.
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Pledger not being a top 3 nominee makes me think the points system is possibly flawed, was a stand out in all games up until the final where he couldn't quite influence but c'mon
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Surprised that all of Casey, Christie and Pledger all missed out on nomination for player of the year.
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love to see it
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Is the NPC really sustainable if ads like the below are popping up on my social feed. Worrying signs.
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@Canes4life thats an agent trying to get clients by claiming they can get them into NPC, these have posts for every comp around the world by the looks of it...dont think it means anything
I was curious as have been doing some requitment for my club, the highest level i could see in the NZ placements was North Otago......
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@Kiwiwomble said in NPC 2025:
@Canes4life thats an agent trying to get clients by claiming they can get them into NPC, these have posts for every comp around the world by the looks of it...dont think it means anything
I was curious as have been doing some requitment for my club, the highest level i could see in the NZ placements was North Otago......
lochore cup winners my friend
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@Canes4life said in NPC 2025:
Is the NPC really sustainable if ads like the below are popping up on my social feed. Worrying signs.
Jeez, are Auckland in that much trouble?!
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Unions need to take a leaf out of what Counties Manukau are doing the majority of their squad are club players with around 5 x NZ super players and possibly a few MP players but in the main they backed players from their club system and also put a lot of work into their development squad who actually won the North Region Dev comp
Reon Graham does a tremendous job pulling together 2 squads primarily out of 6 first division clubs , staggering when you compare some of the resources that bigger unions have
The word that comes to mind in many of the conversations I have with various stakeholders from other unions is in and around TRUST , having the fortitude to develop what you have available in your own union as opposed to being lazy and going outside your region , most of these players bought in are there picking up a pay cheque and if they don’t pick up super deals they move onI wish my own union would have more trust in the talent that they have within , we had a ridiculous situation this year where a player who was bought in from the MLR who was the player of the year in that particular comp but it’s fair to say he turned out to be a dud which also highlighted the differences between MLR and NPC and this came at the expense of a very bright prospect who is even rated by HP guys within the Blues system.
Now this young talent is being courted by Toyota Verblitz after he just recently headed over trained and trialed with that particular club
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Counties club rugby took a hit around covid time but it is slowly re-building. A lot of clubs went down to one team, but they didn't fold and are building back up. I expect Papakura to bounce back and Waiuku are trying to get a reserves team . I think 8 teams is a good number for a prem grade so hopefully they can get to that in the future.
With the northern border in the middle of South Auckland, hopefully some Rep quality players from Auckland clubs look south for an opportunity. The population of the province is growing especially around Drury. School rugby seems to be growing, Tipene is back, there is a new Catholic school North of Pukekohe. Wesley might take a hit with their Hostel closing.
