Italy v All Blacks
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Compare and contrast the fortunes of Havili and Sotutu. It ain’t right, I’m telling ya, it ain’t right.
@game_film said in Italy v All Blacks:
Compare and contrast the fortunes of Havili and Sotutu. It ain’t right, I’m telling ya, it ain’t right.
Havili is good on both sides of the ball.
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Italy:
15 Ange Capuozzo, 14 Jacopo Trulla, 13 Juan Ignacio Brex (c), 12 Tommaso Menoncello, 11 Monty Ioane, 10 Paolo Garbisi, 9 Martin Page-Relo, 8 Ross Vintcent, 7 Manuel Zuliani, 6 Sebastian Negri, 5 Dino Lamb, 4 Federico Ruzza, 3 Marco Riccioni, 2 Gianmarco Lucchesi, 1 Danilo Fischetti
Replacements: 16 Giacomo Nicotera, 17 Mirco Spagnolo 18 Simone Ferrari, 19 Niccolò Cannone, 20 Alessandro Izekor, 21 Alessandro Garbisi, 22 Leonardo Marin 23 Marco ZanonReferee: Pierre Brousset (France)
Assistant Referees: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia), Ludovic Cayre (France)
TMO: Tual Trainini (France) -
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@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:
Sititi
I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.
@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:
Sititi
I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.
Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him
They fluked that one imo
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So Razor is just thick as fuck eh. That's a shame.
I like the idea of playing the core of the top team and making minor changes to fit new guys into the pattern and see what they can do. But his top team is badly wrong at 10 and he's not giving the new guys a chance unless injury forces his hand. -
@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:
Sititi
I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.
Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him
They fluked that one imo
@kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:
Sititi
I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.
Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him
They fluked that one imo
Yeah that's what I meant!
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@Bovidae
Yep. I'm going.
Wind and snow in the high country.
Needs must, a warm-up pint of IPA at Murpys. -
@KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:
So conservative he could be called Republican Razor
A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.
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@KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:
So conservative he could be called Republican Razor
A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.
@Bovidae said in Italy v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:
So conservative he could be called Republican Razor
A big contrast to Erasmus, who has used 50+ players this year.
Rasnus is playing Chess
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@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:
Sititi
I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.
Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him
They fluked that one imo
@kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:
Sititi
I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.
Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him
They fluked that one imo
Like, credit for picking Sititi and Tosi in the first place but yeah, if it weren't for injury, they probably would have only played against Japan if Blackadder and Newell stayed fit.
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@Landers92 said in Italy v All Blacks:
@frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:
I would have liked to have seen Bell, Holland etc. get a game, but other than it being nice for them and their families, I am not sure it proves anything, because of the level of opposition, and the fact the next test is 9 months after this
And playing your near full strength squad does?
ALL BLACKS: v ITALY 2004 EOYT
S. Taumoepeau
A. D. Oliver
C. J. Hayman
C. R. Jack
N. M. C. Maxwell
J. Collins
R. H. McCaw
M. M. Tuiali'i
B. T. Kelleher
D. W. Carter
J. T. Rokocoko
J. F. Umaga (C)
C. G. Smith
R. L. Gear
J. M. Muliaina@ACT-Crusader said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Landers92 said in Italy v All Blacks:
@frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:
I would have liked to have seen Bell, Holland etc. get a game, but other than it being nice for them and their families, I am not sure it proves anything, because of the level of opposition, and the fact the next test is 9 months after this
And playing your near full strength squad does?
ALL BLACKS: v ITALY 2004 EOYT
S. Taumoepeau
A. D. Oliver
C. J. Hayman
C. R. Jack
N. M. C. Maxwell
J. Collins
R. H. McCaw
M. M. Tuiali'i
B. T. Kelleher
D. W. Carter
J. T. Rokocoko
J. F. Umaga (C)
C. G. Smith
R. L. Gear
J. M. MuliainaTotally different circumstances. Italy was the first game of the NH tour, the AB's hadn't played for 3 months and Ted made 9 changes for the next game against Wales.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Bones said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Darren said in Italy v All Blacks:
Sititi
I'm even loathe to give him credit for that - a newbie playing out of position. Got very fucking lucky.
Going off how the rest of the team has been selected, If it wasn’t for injuries , I’m not convinced sititi gets a run at all this year , particularly at 6 with Blackadder playing there before him
They fluked that one imo
Yeah that's what I meant!
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@pakman said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Bones What time zone are you in at the mo?
I usually ask for the deposit first.
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I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.
On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?
@sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:
I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.
On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?
Last time we almost put a ton on them, how the fuck do they deserve our respect?
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@sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:
I am pleased that Robertson and co. have picked what they think is the strongest possible 23 for this game. Italy deserve our respect and we want to go into the summer with as much positive momentum as possible.
On the other hand, what the fuck is David Havili doing in the 23?
Last time we almost put a ton on them, how the fuck do they deserve our respect?
@Machpants They drew with France in France earlier this year and we could only manage a loss away against the same country. Their other results in 2024 are mostly not bad.
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@Machpants They drew with France in France earlier this year and we could only manage a loss away against the same country. Their other results in 2024 are mostly not bad.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Landers92 said in Italy v All Blacks:
@frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:
I would have liked to have seen Bell, Holland etc. get a game, but other than it being nice for them and their families, I am not sure it proves anything, because of the level of opposition, and the fact the next test is 9 months after this
And playing your near full strength squad does?
ALL BLACKS: v ITALY 2004 EOYT
S. Taumoepeau
A. D. Oliver
C. J. Hayman
C. R. Jack
N. M. C. Maxwell
J. Collins
R. H. McCaw
M. M. Tuiali'i
B. T. Kelleher
D. W. Carter
J. T. Rokocoko
J. F. Umaga (C)
C. G. Smith
R. L. Gear
J. M. MuliainaTotally different circumstances. Italy was the first game of the NH tour, the AB's hadn't played for 3 months and Ted made 9 changes for the next game against Wales.
@dogmeat said in Italy v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in Italy v All Blacks:
@Landers92 said in Italy v All Blacks:
@frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:
I would have liked to have seen Bell, Holland etc. get a game, but other than it being nice for them and their families, I am not sure it proves anything, because of the level of opposition, and the fact the next test is 9 months after this
And playing your near full strength squad does?
ALL BLACKS: v ITALY 2004 EOYT
S. Taumoepeau
A. D. Oliver
C. J. Hayman
C. R. Jack
N. M. C. Maxwell
J. Collins
R. H. McCaw
M. M. Tuiali'i
B. T. Kelleher
D. W. Carter
J. T. Rokocoko
J. F. Umaga (C)
C. G. Smith
R. L. Gear
J. M. MuliainaTotally different circumstances. Italy was the first game of the NH tour, the AB's hadn't played for 3 months and Ted made 9 changes for the next game against Wales.
We’ve just come off a loss so there will be some players who would be keen to avenge that loss. Razor has made 5 changes to the lineup that started last week.
