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All Blacks 2025

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    BB? Behind DMac one presumes, but holding on with his fingernails to backup 10?

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      @nostrildamus especially if they are gonna run BB at 10, combinations are important

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      @taniwharugby

      I think one of the reasons why the Blues struggled to get ascendancy last night is because BB failed to make use of Lam enough.

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        I'm juatbsaying I think the coaches still see BB as an option, but maybe they will change the way they use Lam in black...not holding my breath, but that's my thinking...

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          Beauden showed last night that the chip kicks form last week were just the usual 'every so often it comes off'. His kicking was rubbish. He did utilise a 3 on 2 for the try in the corner, but that's the sort of thing you'd congratulate a schoolboy 10 for, not a fucking all black.

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            @taniwharugby

            I think one of the reasons why the Blues struggled to get ascendancy last night is because BB failed to make use of Lam enough.

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            @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            @taniwharugby

            I think one of the reasons why the Blues struggled to get ascendancy last night is because BB failed to make use of Lam enough.

            His pop gun kick game was glaringly obvious when you compared him to Sullivan and Reihana. He couldn't get the Blues out of danger consistently enough and the Crusaders took advantage

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              Is there enough room for Lam? Without anymore injuries the midfield 4 will be Jordie Havili Rieko and Proctor

              Clarke Reece and Jordan are certainties out wide - Love will get the 10/15 role.

              I presume someone like a Carter will make it and/or a Narawa.

              Lam with his ability to cover midfield and wing should see himself in the squad but there's also big Jim, Fihaki (lol) etc.

              Personally i'd think about giving Clarke a bit of a rocket and leaving him out of the French series which would open up an extra spot to take a look at some of these other options.

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                Clarke a very odd one - hasn’t scored a try in SR, wouldn’t be many starting wingers who have achieved that feat.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Is there enough room for Lam? Without anymore injuries the midfield 4 will be Jordie Havili Rieko and Proctor

                  Clarke Reece and Jordan are certainties out wide - Love will get the 10/15 role.

                  I presume someone like a Carter will make it and/or a Narawa.

                  Lam with his ability to cover midfield and wing should see himself in the squad but there's also big Jim, Fihaki (lol) etc.

                  Personally i'd think about giving Clarke a bit of a rocket and leaving him out of the French series which would open up an extra spot to take a look at some of these other options.

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                  @KiwiMurph I think Narawa is a certainty.

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                    @KiwiMurph I think Narawa is a certainty.

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @KiwiMurph I think Narawa is a certainty.

                    Is he signing for Canterbury?

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @KiwiMurph I think Narawa is a certainty.

                      Is he signing for Canterbury?

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @KiwiMurph I think Narawa is a certainty.

                      Is he signing for Canterbury?

                      The oil is good

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                        Clarke a very odd one - hasn’t scored a try in SR, wouldn’t be many starting wingers who have achieved that feat.

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                        @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Clarke a very odd one - hasn’t scored a try in SR, wouldn’t be many starting wingers who have achieved that feat.

                        Has he just not had much opportunity? Blues were poor early in the season. Ran hard and used EB as a judder bar last night

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                          @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Clarke a very odd one - hasn’t scored a try in SR, wouldn’t be many starting wingers who have achieved that feat.

                          Has he just not had much opportunity? Blues were poor early in the season. Ran hard and used EB as a judder bar last night

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                          @canefan I feel Clarke has been a bit sloppy most of the season, watching on and off the ball. Was much better last season. Maybe the issue is his connection with the midfielders?

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                            @canefan I feel Clarke has been a bit sloppy most of the season, watching on and off the ball. Was much better last season. Maybe the issue is his connection with the midfielders?

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                            @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan I feel Clarke has been a bit sloppy most of the season, watching on and off the ball. Was much better last season. Maybe the issue is his connection with the midfielders?

                            He's not as switched on. This year the Blues wings didn't look for work as much.

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                              Actually maybe with Tele'a leaving, and Jordan possibly being picked at 15 for once, the wing selection could get very interesting.
                              And legends like George Bridge will be back on this side of the world ... (looks for coat)...

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                                Is there enough room for Lam? Without anymore injuries the midfield 4 will be Jordie Havili Rieko and Proctor

                                Clarke Reece and Jordan are certainties out wide - Love will get the 10/15 role.

                                I presume someone like a Carter will make it and/or a Narawa.

                                Lam with his ability to cover midfield and wing should see himself in the squad but there's also big Jim, Fihaki (lol) etc.

                                Personally i'd think about giving Clarke a bit of a rocket and leaving him out of the French series which would open up an extra spot to take a look at some of these other options.

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                                @KiwiMurph There's lots of contenders for not many open places.

                                Given the amount of utility we have in the backs, I'd be very tempted to go for a 20 forwards/15 backs split.

                                Three halfbacks, three first fives (all covering fullback): BB, DMac, Love.

                                9 remaining spots of whom I think Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, Clarke, Reece and Jordan are near certainties (6 spots).

                                Three spots remain.

                                At least one more midfielder.

                                I think Quinn Tupaea is a good shot to replace ALB in the midfield - can play 12 and 13 and they'll likely want that on the bench.

                                Dave Havili will be looked at closely, but I don't think he's a certainty.

                                They need at least one more wing - Narawa and/or Lam? Or someone else?

                                I think AJ's utility value is pretty unique - he'll be very close if he doesn't make it. Covering wing and both midfield positions.

                                I reckon there will be a few extras called in for training, as well.

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  Actually maybe with Tele'a leaving, and Jordan possibly being picked at 15 for once, the wing selection could get very interesting.
                                  And legends like George Bridge will be back on this side of the world ... (looks for coat)...

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                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Actually maybe with Tele'a leaving, and Jordan possibly being picked at 15 for once, the wing selection could get very interesting.
                                  And legends like George Bridge will be back on this side of the world ... (looks for coat)...

                                  Will Jordan started 7 tests last year at fullback.

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                                    @frugby
                                    Aren't we better than the sum of our parts? We clearly aren't at the moment but to me that was always our point of difference.

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                                    @JKP said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @frugby
                                    Aren't we better than the sum of our parts? We clearly aren't at the moment but to me that was always our point of difference.

                                    Sometimes we play like a team of strangers. We need more cohesion

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                                      Dalton Papalii has been for me the Blues most consistent performer this season. I hope he makes the AB squad.

                                      Reiko Ioane and Beauden Barrett have done enough to justify their retention. Patrick Tuipolutu will be there or there about. He's one of the best leaders we've got. AJ Lam must be close to getting selected, especially if there is another midfield injury.

                                      Beyond that it's hard to see many Blues in the AB squad. Mark Telea, Harry Plummer and Ricky Riccitelli are going overseas so should only be picked in an emergency. Caleb Clarke's form is horrific. Stephen Perofeta has been anonymous this year. Finlay Christie's pass is too slow. I don't see his defence as better than Hotham's. Hoskins Sotutu doesn't make the right decisions at key moments. Ofa T is injured. So is Sam Darry. Angus Taavao is well past his best.

                                      Josh Fusitua, Josh Beehre, Anton Segner and Zarn Sullivan are all young guys with lots of potential. But don't make the top 35 players in New Zealand IMHO.

                                      So I think there'll only be 5 or 6 Blues players in the AB squad.

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                                        I think CC makes it, as AB runs on the board trumps SR form

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          I think CC makes it, as AB runs on the board trumps SR form

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                                          @canefan For me it depends on the position, for a backrow player or a First Five AB experience and test quality is far more important. At Test level those positions have a very different role to Super Rugby.

                                          But for a winger SR form matters. If you can't finish in Super Rugby, you won't be able to finish in Test Rugby either. It's unfair to pick Caleb Clarke and shove him in the Test arena when he's nowhere near his best.

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