All Blacks 2025
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nogusta A million time more reliable than some blow hard moron on NZ radio. Thank you
I find it pretty amazing that the guy would say it on 'national' radio, you would think that you would have your sources correct? That's pretty scandalous to spread that rumor if it isn't true.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nogusta A million time more reliable than some blow hard moron on NZ radio. Thank you
I find it pretty amazing that the guy would say it on 'national' radio, you would think that you would have your sources correct? That's pretty scandalous to spread that rumor if it isn't true.
With so many today trying to out hot take the next show/podcast, I’m not surprised by anything these days, especially when it involves a player that hits a certain nerve or will get an immediate reaction.
The thing is there’s no real consequences for coming out and saying whatever when it comes to this stuff.
The Fern is fortunate to have a few close to players, coaches, administrators that get oil or some are just lucky enough to sit at the cafe table next to some ABs for breakfast - it’s all part of the drama and buildup.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nogusta A million time more reliable than some blow hard moron on NZ radio. Thank you
I find it pretty amazing that the guy would say it on 'national' radio, you would think that you would have your sources correct? That's pretty scandalous to spread that rumor if it isn't true.
With so many today trying to out hot take the next show/podcast, I’m not surprised by anything these days, especially when it involves a player that hits a certain nerve or will get an immediate reaction.
The thing is there’s no real consequences for coming out and saying whatever when it comes to this stuff.
The Fern is fortunate to have a few close to players, coaches, administrators that get oil or some are just lucky enough to sit at the cafe table next to some ABs for breakfast - it’s all part of the drama and buildup.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nogusta A million time more reliable than some blow hard moron on NZ radio. Thank you
I find it pretty amazing that the guy would say it on 'national' radio, you would think that you would have your sources correct? That's pretty scandalous to spread that rumor if it isn't true.
With so many today trying to out hot take the next show/podcast, I’m not surprised by anything these days, especially when it involves a player that hits a certain nerve or will get an immediate reaction.
The thing is there’s no real consequences for coming out and saying whatever when it comes to this stuff.
The Fern is fortunate to have a few close to players, coaches, administrators that get oil or some are just lucky enough to sit at the cafe table next to some ABs for breakfast - it’s all part of the drama and buildup.
Damien McKenzie is the only one left of the @jegga breakfast club. I bet Joe Moody, Liam Squire and Jerome Kaino think about it a lot though
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Our loosies issue is still the lack of a good big (mass and height) 6. We lack height and power in any of our loosies that play well enough to get picked. When we had both read and kaino we had height and enough mass/skill to do the tough stuff. For the last 3 seasons we had players playing well in a 6 role but either tall enough but not solid enough or a solid enforcer who wasnt tall enough.
I could be wrong as its just my perception.
Paps is the classic example. But heavy for a 7, too short for a 6 or 8. Great player for a role in the game for all sizes but ironically not quite the right size.
EB, broken a lot but brings a lot of energy. Too tall for 7, probably too light or is about more speed less power for 6 or 8. Offers things of real value to the collective group but not quite the right shape.
Hos, lots of talent and size. In the semi either was the focus of containment for the defence or just didnt have a great game in the game that mattered.
Jacobseon, great player at 6 and 8 but has the size of a 7. Not as good a 7 as he is 6 or 8. Great bench option for cover but impact.....not sure if hes the line busting 6/8 you might need in the last 20mins of a big international.
Finau. Really capable 6 with good size. Not quite there yet but could be another Kaino or just stays the same.
Satitti. Gives off the same mental aptitude and attitude of an early Mccaw. Next ABs captain if we can find a taller 6 or 8 to get the loosie balance better.
And here we are back at the big lineout option and ball carrier at 6 or 8 again that we dont seem to have.@Lancaster-Park Yeah - if you look at the heights in our 2015 RWC winning lineout:
Retallick 2.04m
Whitelock 2.03m
Kaino 1.96m
McCaw 1.87m
Read 1.93mWe're a bit small throughout the pack (last year's No. 1 lineup)....
Barrett 1.97m
Vaa'i 1.98m
Sititi 1.87m
Cane 1.89 m
Savea 1.85mIf Sititi and Savea both are going to start, I really want them at 8 and 7 to allow us to play a tall 6.
There's hope on the horizon.
Holland 2.04m
Darry 2.03m
Lord 2.02mFinau 1.96m
Parker 1.97mA bit further behind and not as tall, but eye-catching Malachi Wrampling 1.92.
Challenge for these big guys is to be athletic and mobile enough to get around the park - and not to be forever injured - leverage on their big legs when things get bent and twisted wrong is a killer.
n.b. internet heights so they're probably slightly dodgy, but not so highly unreliable as internet weights.
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New ABs or bolters? Now that Razor and Lashes have selected their team and started the rumours on who is in, who would be a bolter?
I expect several new ABs from this group:
Norris or Fusitua or Numia
Holland
Lio Willie or Kirifi or Parker
Roe
Tavatavanawai or Lam
Carter
So I think up to 6 spots with some in the air until the final is over. Maybe 4 or 5 including injury cover.
What would be a bolter? Reihana, Ah Kuoi, Howden, Dyer, Beehre, Jack Taylor? -
@Chris-B clash of the codes (think thats what it was called?) was good to watch back in the day
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B clash of the codes (think thats what it was called?) was good to watch back in the day
The rowers and canoeists generally won IIRC
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New ABs or bolters? Now that Razor and Lashes have selected their team and started the rumours on who is in, who would be a bolter?
I expect several new ABs from this group:
Norris or Fusitua or Numia
Holland
Lio Willie or Kirifi or Parker
Roe
Tavatavanawai or Lam
Carter
So I think up to 6 spots with some in the air until the final is over. Maybe 4 or 5 including injury cover.
What would be a bolter? Reihana, Ah Kuoi, Howden, Dyer, Beehre, Jack Taylor? -
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
How he slipped through the Highlanders net is wild.
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Do we reckon anyone can play themselves into a black jersey tomorrow?
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Do we reckon anyone can play themselves into a black jersey tomorrow?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Do we reckon anyone can play themselves into a black jersey tomorrow?
Razor has probably made up his mind. Unless one of the Chiefs players literally snaps their opposite in half I can't see it
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
How he slipped through the Highlanders net is wild.
@KiwiMurph He appears to top the Super rugby stats for carries.
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@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
That would be awesome - another small loose forward.
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@Lancaster-Park Yeah - if you look at the heights in our 2015 RWC winning lineout:
Retallick 2.04m
Whitelock 2.03m
Kaino 1.96m
McCaw 1.87m
Read 1.93mWe're a bit small throughout the pack (last year's No. 1 lineup)....
Barrett 1.97m
Vaa'i 1.98m
Sititi 1.87m
Cane 1.89 m
Savea 1.85mIf Sititi and Savea both are going to start, I really want them at 8 and 7 to allow us to play a tall 6.
There's hope on the horizon.
Holland 2.04m
Darry 2.03m
Lord 2.02mFinau 1.96m
Parker 1.97mA bit further behind and not as tall, but eye-catching Malachi Wrampling 1.92.
Challenge for these big guys is to be athletic and mobile enough to get around the park - and not to be forever injured - leverage on their big legs when things get bent and twisted wrong is a killer.
n.b. internet heights so they're probably slightly dodgy, but not so highly unreliable as internet weights.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@Lancaster-Park Yeah - if you look at the heights in our 2015 RWC winning lineout:
Retallick 2.04m
Whitelock 2.03m
Kaino 1.96m
McCaw 1.87m
Read 1.93mWe're a bit small throughout the pack (last year's No. 1 lineup)....
Barrett 1.97m
Vaa'i 1.98m
Sititi 1.87m
Cane 1.89 m
Savea 1.85mIf Sititi and Savea both are going to start, I really want them at 8 and 7 to allow us to play a tall 6.
There's hope on the horizon.
Holland 2.04m
Darry 2.03m
Lord 2.02mFinau 1.96m
Parker 1.97mA bit further behind and not as tall, but eye-catching Malachi Wrampling 1.92.
Challenge for these big guys is to be athletic and mobile enough to get around the park - and not to be forever injured - leverage on their big legs when things get bent and twisted wrong is a killer.
n.b. internet heights so they're probably slightly dodgy, but not so highly unreliable as internet weights.
Hmmmm……
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
That would be awesome - another small loose forward.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
That would be awesome - another small loose forward.
Short not small
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Small stature.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@Lancaster-Park Yeah - if you look at the heights in our 2015 RWC winning lineout:
Retallick 2.04m
Whitelock 2.03m
Kaino 1.96m
McCaw 1.87m
Read 1.93mWe're a bit small throughout the pack (last year's No. 1 lineup)....
Barrett 1.97m
Vaa'i 1.98m
Sititi 1.87m
Cane 1.89 m
Savea 1.85mIf Sititi and Savea both are going to start, I really want them at 8 and 7 to allow us to play a tall 6.
There's hope on the horizon.
Holland 2.04m
Darry 2.03m
Lord 2.02mFinau 1.96m
Parker 1.97mA bit further behind and not as tall, but eye-catching Malachi Wrampling 1.92.
Challenge for these big guys is to be athletic and mobile enough to get around the park - and not to be forever injured - leverage on their big legs when things get bent and twisted wrong is a killer.
n.b. internet heights so they're probably slightly dodgy, but not so highly unreliable as internet weights.
Hmmmm……
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
That would be awesome - another small loose forward.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!
Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?
Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!
That would be awesome - another small loose forward.
Sorry to disappoint you - I can't produce a Miracle!
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@Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 Hoskins was in Tauranga at the camp. Flew down this morning, was back in Auckland by the afternoon.
It was a physical/medical check type of visit with the AB docs/trainers.
Make of that what you willGood on you. Was it a one day thing or were guys meant to stick around?
@gt12 I think it's a weekend camp? Hoskins had a 9.30am flight down and a 12.30pm flight back. It involved a medical and chat with the coaches.
So he WAS there albeit just for the morning.
He's on a plane soon to South Africa for the Baabaas game. He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall -
@gt12 I think it's a weekend camp? Hoskins had a 9.30am flight down and a 12.30pm flight back. It involved a medical and chat with the coaches.
So he WAS there albeit just for the morning.
He's on a plane soon to South Africa for the Baabaas game. He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall@Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:
He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall
Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday
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@Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:
He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall
Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday
@Frank said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:
He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall
Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday
remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.
