All Blacks 2025
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Wallace Sititi only started 8 out of 15 games last year. He's started 13 Super Rugby games his entire career. Not even a full seasons worth
Also Hoskins Sotutu was Super Rugby Player of the year and helped his team win a title. Something Sititi is yet to do.
Sititi was a player of potential with a handful of good games but he wasn't obviously the best which is why his selection was controversial in the media.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
Wallace Sititi only started 8 out of 15 games last year. He's started 13 Super Rugby games his entire career. Not even a full seasons worth
Also Hoskins Sotutu was Super Rugby Player of the year and helped his team win a title. Something Sititi is yet to do.
Sititi was a player of potential with a handful of good games but he wasn't obviously the best which is why his selection was controversial in the media.
Yeah and they played him at 6. Ballsy.
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Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?
I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.
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Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?
I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?
I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.
I thought I heard Razor say CLW is available for selection in the first test
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?
I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.
I thought I heard Razor say CLW is available for selection in the first test
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?
I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.
I thought I heard Razor say CLW is available for selection in the first test
Thanks canefan.
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If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
By whom?
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
He would be a fringe fill in, who might get some garbage time in a meaningless game that would then rule him ineligible to play for England, or anyone else. Keen?
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Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
The bridge collapsed in 2024 when Tubby Ryan sat on one end of it and that ripple effect caused all the boats to sink.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
By whom?
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
By whom?
I have no oil. I was hoping someone here does.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.
Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.
Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...
He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......
Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.
He would be a fringe fill in, who might get some garbage time in a meaningless game that would then rule him ineligible to play for England, or anyone else. Keen?
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
He would be a fringe fill in, who might get some garbage time in a meaningless game that would then rule him ineligible to play for England, or anyone else. Keen?
It's an opportunity to represent NZ. Against a side that keeps beating us recently, B team or not. He's not going to get a better opportunity here.
But I don't actually know what he is thinking, I don't have the extra-sensory talents of some on here and I don't know if the coaches have even mentioned him recently but they'd have something interesting to say I suspect.All I can say is that it would be great to pick players who are actually fit to play.
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Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
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That's cool that he's named after William Wallace
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
This is where I read up on his England eligibility - as soon as November this year.
From the tone of his comments it seems like he doesn't think he will be (or has been) given a fair shot to make the team and there's not much incentive to give up England eligibility just to hold the tackle bags at a few training camps and warm the bench.
I'm not sure how much he would feature in Englands plans either but I suppose his agent will be trying to determine that and what the market is for him in Europe this (NH) summer.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
This is where I read up on his England eligibility - as soon as November this year.
From the tone of his comments it seems like he doesn't think he will be (or has been) given a fair shot to make the team and there's not much incentive to give up England eligibility just to hold the tackle bags at a few training camps and warm the bench.
I'm not sure how much he would feature in Englands plans either but I suppose his agent will be trying to determine that and what the market is for him in Europe this (NH) summer.
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I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.
FS, not saying he is not humble, I just detect an air of defeatism when he says "it's not something I even think about anymore".... Like he's made peace with the fact he may never get back into the All Blacks setup.
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
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Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024
He was injured.
Here' what Robertson said at he time :
"We were going to bring Hoskins in, but he’s injured,” declared Robertson. “We’ve been considering it over the last couple of days, but with his knee, after scans, he won't come"He's a player that some people like to make shit up about. A similar rumour was pushed last week
