All Blacks 2025
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If we're going to play a lock at 6, why on Richie's green earth wouldn't you look at Naitoa?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
If we're going to play a lock at 6, why on Richie's green earth wouldn't you look at Naitoa?
Isn't he in the squad as injury cover?
@booboo said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
If we're going to play a lock at 6, why on Richie's green earth wouldn't you look at Naitoa?
Isn't he in the squad as injury cover?
Think he was there as a training body.
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If we're going to play a lock at 6, why on Richie's green earth wouldn't you look at Naitoa?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:
That's really good stuff. ABs out in the community but also the video itself and getting that out to the fans.
Most teams are doing this now so good to see the ABs move with the times.
I hate all the social media stuff.
Humanises them.
I preferred when they were aloof, mysterious, unapproachable, arseholes.
The Tik-Tok age has not stood us in good stead.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:
That's really good stuff. ABs out in the community but also the video itself and getting that out to the fans.
Most teams are doing this now so good to see the ABs move with the times.
I hate all the social media stuff.
Humanises them.
I preferred when they were aloof, mysterious, unapproachable, arseholes.
The Tik-Tok age has not stood us in good stead.
I remember the AB's training at schools growing up and some doing impropmtu coachin with 1st Xv's. Still looked dark and myserious though...
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:
That's really good stuff. ABs out in the community but also the video itself and getting that out to the fans.
Most teams are doing this now so good to see the ABs move with the times.
I hate all the social media stuff.
Humanises them.
I preferred when they were aloof, mysterious, unapproachable, arseholes.
The Tik-Tok age has not stood us in good stead.
Mate are you a dinosaur? It’s YouTube not Tik Tok.
I hate all of it. I preferred reading the program in the stadium to see who was playing.
Reading the game review in the 8oclock
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:
Checking the lineup on teletext. Hearing Keith Quinn call the game. Buying an $8 jug of Speights.
Fortunately there is the option to choose. If all you want to know is that Fabian Holland is 2.04m tall and 124kg, is affiliated to the Dunedin Sharks, Otago and the Highlanders. You can block out everything else.
The fun thing about this forum is it is clear some people don't like change. Super Rounds, hate em. Understanding personalities and history, hate it. Boots that aren't black, hate it.
Like, provincial rugby, paper programmes, you know the good old days.
We should be able to go to test matches carrying in your own chilli bin full of beer .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:
Checking the lineup on teletext. Hearing Keith Quinn call the game. Buying an $8 jug of Speights.
Fortunately there is the option to choose. If all you want to know is that Fabian Holland is 2.04m tall and 124kg, is affiliated to the Dunedin Sharks, Otago and the Highlanders. You can block out everything else.
The fun thing about this forum is it is clear some people don't like change. Super Rounds, hate em. Understanding personalities and history, hate it. Boots that aren't black, hate it.
Like, provincial rugby, paper programmes, you know the good old days.
We should be able to go to test matches carrying in your own chilli bin full of beer .
I recall people did that at Twickenham a couple of decades ago.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France 2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v France 2:
@canefan said in All Blacks v France 2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v France 2:
I don't see the point in playing Finau off the bench, yes he played there a bit this year, but if we want to see if he's our Kaino-like (acknowledging no one will ever be completely that level) then he has to start.
It is completely weird to pick a 6 in a squad, the only true blue 6, and then play him off the bench.
They have a bunch of pieces that don't quite fit. Or they can't make them fit yet
If they're just killing time until bringing back Frizell my ditching of rugby might happen sooner than I thought.
Simon Parker is the guy I hope they are waiting on
Even then there's a bit of great white hype about him, he had a great season, but we'll need to see him in black and probably another season to see whether he has the goods consistently. Hopefully his injury clears up in time for him to get some AB game time. But yep agree, even with the reservations above, definitely hope it's him instead of the Tongan imposter.
Speaking of great white hypes, whatever happened to Gardiner? He has certainly fell off the radar since the Fern had a collective wank about him when playing for the AB XV.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
Speaking of great white hypes, whatever happened to Gardiner? He has certainly fell off the radar since the Fern had a collective wank about him when playing for the AB XV.
He always seems to be injured and when he does get chance he is prone to doing stupid things. Pity, because he did look good for a short period of time.
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby_league/joseph-manu-makes-next-career-call-amid-nrl-return-rumours/ar-AA1IiEdC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=09c832414bb746dda8943d0e636b262b&ei=12 If Manu does return to pursue his All Blacks dream he will only have the 2027 Super Rugby season to prove himself, should he go down that path.
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On the small 7 front, Tizzano and McReight seem broadly similar sized to Kirifi but the former at least, and arguably the latter, seem to have more go forward. Is that technique, or something else?
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
On the small 7 front, Tizzano and McReight seem broadly similar sized to Kirifi but the former at least, and arguably the latter, seem to have more go forward. Is that technique, or something else?
Kirifi has shown more than enough go forward at lower levels. The test level sample size is fucking 15 minutes, let's stop overthinking it.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
On the small 7 front, Tizzano and McReight seem broadly similar sized to Kirifi but the former at least, and arguably the latter, seem to have more go forward. Is that technique, or something else?
Kirifi has shown more than enough go forward at lower levels. The test level sample size is fucking 15 minutes, let's stop overthinking it.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
On the small 7 front, Tizzano and McReight seem broadly similar sized to Kirifi but the former at least, and arguably the latter, seem to have more go forward. Is that technique, or something else?
Kirifi has shown more than enough go forward at lower levels. The test level sample size is fucking 15 minutes, let's stop overthinking it.
The takeaway is that 7s his size are not too small.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
On the small 7 front, Tizzano and McReight seem broadly similar sized to Kirifi but the former at least, and arguably the latter, seem to have more go forward. Is that technique, or something else?
Kirifi has shown more than enough go forward at lower levels. The test level sample size is fucking 15 minutes, let's stop overthinking it.
The takeaway is that 7s his size are not too small.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
On the small 7 front, Tizzano and McReight seem broadly similar sized to Kirifi but the former at least, and arguably the latter, seem to have more go forward. Is that technique, or something else?
Kirifi has shown more than enough go forward at lower levels. The test level sample size is fucking 15 minutes, let's stop overthinking it.
The takeaway is that 7s his size are not too small.
Now do Moananu!
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby_league/joseph-manu-makes-next-career-call-amid-nrl-return-rumours/ar-AA1IiEdC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=09c832414bb746dda8943d0e636b262b&ei=12 If Manu does return to pursue his All Blacks dream he will only have the 2027 Super Rugby season to prove himself, should he go down that path.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby_league/joseph-manu-makes-next-career-call-amid-nrl-return-rumours/ar-AA1IiEdC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=09c832414bb746dda8943d0e636b262b&ei=12 If Manu does return to pursue his All Blacks dream he will only have the 2027 Super Rugby season to prove himself, should he go down that path.
Comparing to Sonny Bills timeline he went to French rugby in 2008 and was playing NPC for Canterbury in 2010 and the Crusaders in 2011. So it would appear to be an even tighter timeline than SBW.
I'd love to know to what extent the NZR and the coaches build relationships when this stuff happens to increase the likelihood of being able to integrate the player into the All Blacks setup, of the stars align.
From what I can recall Tana was with SBW in France and may have acted as a bridge builder in this sense.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby_league/joseph-manu-makes-next-career-call-amid-nrl-return-rumours/ar-AA1IiEdC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=09c832414bb746dda8943d0e636b262b&ei=12 If Manu does return to pursue his All Blacks dream he will only have the 2027 Super Rugby season to prove himself, should he go down that path.
Comparing to Sonny Bills timeline he went to French rugby in 2008 and was playing NPC for Canterbury in 2010 and the Crusaders in 2011. So it would appear to be an even tighter timeline than SBW.
I'd love to know to what extent the NZR and the coaches build relationships when this stuff happens to increase the likelihood of being able to integrate the player into the All Blacks setup, of the stars align.
From what I can recall Tana was with SBW in France and may have acted as a bridge builder in this sense.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby_league/joseph-manu-makes-next-career-call-amid-nrl-return-rumours/ar-AA1IiEdC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=09c832414bb746dda8943d0e636b262b&ei=12 If Manu does return to pursue his All Blacks dream he will only have the 2027 Super Rugby season to prove himself, should he go down that path.
Comparing to Sonny Bills timeline he went to French rugby in 2008 and was playing NPC for Canterbury in 2010 and the Crusaders in 2011. So it would appear to be an even tighter timeline than SBW.
I'd love to know to what extent the NZR and the coaches build relationships when this stuff happens to increase the likelihood of being able to integrate the player into the All Blacks setup, of the stars align.
From what I can recall Tana was with SBW in France and may have acted as a bridge builder in this sense.
Both Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Brad Thorn (who turned it down) were selected after their first Super Rugby and NPC seasons respectively but they were selected on reputation and name as much as for their performance on field and neither was selected in a World Cup year. It’d be a big gamble to pick a league convert for the first time in a World Cup year not knowing how well they’ll make the step up. He’d have to be an absolute stand out in Super Rugby.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby_league/joseph-manu-makes-next-career-call-amid-nrl-return-rumours/ar-AA1IiEdC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=09c832414bb746dda8943d0e636b262b&ei=12 If Manu does return to pursue his All Blacks dream he will only have the 2027 Super Rugby season to prove himself, should he go down that path.
Comparing to Sonny Bills timeline he went to French rugby in 2008 and was playing NPC for Canterbury in 2010 and the Crusaders in 2011. So it would appear to be an even tighter timeline than SBW.
I'd love to know to what extent the NZR and the coaches build relationships when this stuff happens to increase the likelihood of being able to integrate the player into the All Blacks setup, of the stars align.
From what I can recall Tana was with SBW in France and may have acted as a bridge builder in this sense.
Both Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Brad Thorn (who turned it down) were selected after their first Super Rugby and NPC seasons respectively but they were selected on reputation and name as much as for their performance on field and neither was selected in a World Cup year. It’d be a big gamble to pick a league convert for the first time in a World Cup year not knowing how well they’ll make the step up. He’d have to be an absolute stand out in Super Rugby.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby_league/joseph-manu-makes-next-career-call-amid-nrl-return-rumours/ar-AA1IiEdC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=09c832414bb746dda8943d0e636b262b&ei=12 If Manu does return to pursue his All Blacks dream he will only have the 2027 Super Rugby season to prove himself, should he go down that path.
Comparing to Sonny Bills timeline he went to French rugby in 2008 and was playing NPC for Canterbury in 2010 and the Crusaders in 2011. So it would appear to be an even tighter timeline than SBW.
I'd love to know to what extent the NZR and the coaches build relationships when this stuff happens to increase the likelihood of being able to integrate the player into the All Blacks setup, of the stars align.
From what I can recall Tana was with SBW in France and may have acted as a bridge builder in this sense.
Both Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Brad Thorn (who turned it down) were selected after their first Super Rugby and NPC seasons respectively but they were selected on reputation and name as much as for their performance on field and neither was selected in a World Cup year. It’d be a big gamble to pick a league convert for the first time in a World Cup year not knowing how well they’ll make the step up. He’d have to be an absolute stand out in Super Rugby.
Agreed, 100%. It seems in a best case scenario he is about a year behind where he would need to be in the process as a convert.
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This is a massive gamble which Joey is taking, if he is not an instant success, I would imagine he hits the exit button and returns to the Roosters. Both codes have changed a lot since SBW and Brad Thorn. There won't be a great deal of media attention on him in France, I don't think he is giving himself enough time.
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This is a massive gamble which Joey is taking, if he is not an instant success, I would imagine he hits the exit button and returns to the Roosters. Both codes have changed a lot since SBW and Brad Thorn. There won't be a great deal of media attention on him in France, I don't think he is giving himself enough time.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
This is a massive gamble which Joey is taking, if he is not an instant success, I would imagine he hits the exit button and returns to the Roosters. Both codes have changed a lot since SBW and Brad Thorn. There won't be a great deal of media attention on him in France, I don't think he is giving himself enough time.
Joey Manu? I don't think he's in anyone's thoughts.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
This is a massive gamble which Joey is taking, if he is not an instant success, I would imagine he hits the exit button and returns to the Roosters. Both codes have changed a lot since SBW and Brad Thorn. There won't be a great deal of media attention on him in France, I don't think he is giving himself enough time.
Joey Manu? I don't think he's in anyone's thoughts.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
This is a massive gamble which Joey is taking, if he is not an instant success, I would imagine he hits the exit button and returns to the Roosters. Both codes have changed a lot since SBW and Brad Thorn. There won't be a great deal of media attention on him in France, I don't think he is giving himself enough time.
Joey Manu? I don't think he's in anyone's thoughts.
Joey who ?
Exactly, he’s no SBW, Thorn or even Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
