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Black Caps v Pakistan

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  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

    Saw the highlights, the size of the ground meant that Seifert and Allen were mishitting it for 6 - and when they connected, it was leaving the ground. The fact that no IPL players are playing makes it even more meaningless than usual. And the IPL now appears to be 2 months long and takes 74 matches to complete - how totally tedious.

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    @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Saw the highlights, the size of the ground meant that Seifert and Allen were mishitting it for 6 - and when they connected, it was leaving the ground. The fact that no IPL players are playing makes it even more meaningless than usual. And the IPL now appears to be 2 months long and takes 74 matches to complete - how totally tedious.

    Originally wasnt it meant for the IPL to slot into international breaks windows so no players would miss out playing for their national sides?
    Not the case anymore not to mention the growing number if T20 leagues we have now (Pakistan, South Africa, West Indies, Oz etc etc..)

    these games vs Pakistan just seem pointless. (other then making $$$)

    Ideally the IPL gets so big and bloated it eats itself and cricket stops having to revolve around it

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    • dogmeatD dogmeat

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

      Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all ** about T20 ?

      It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

        It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

        Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

        But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

        I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

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        @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

        It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

        Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

        But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

        I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

        Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

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        • VirgilV Virgil

          @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

          Saw the highlights, the size of the ground meant that Seifert and Allen were mishitting it for 6 - and when they connected, it was leaving the ground. The fact that no IPL players are playing makes it even more meaningless than usual. And the IPL now appears to be 2 months long and takes 74 matches to complete - how totally tedious.

          Originally wasnt it meant for the IPL to slot into international breaks windows so no players would miss out playing for their national sides?
          Not the case anymore not to mention the growing number if T20 leagues we have now (Pakistan, South Africa, West Indies, Oz etc etc..)

          these games vs Pakistan just seem pointless. (other then making $$$)

          Ideally the IPL gets so big and bloated it eats itself and cricket stops having to revolve around it

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          @Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

          Ideally the IPL gets so big and bloated it eats itself and cricket stops having to revolve around it

          Not going to happen IPL now is the most powerful beast in Cricket it generates billions nothing in cricket can compete with it.
          The danger being it will get more powerful and kill off other cricket one day cricket is in danger of eventually being discarded.
          I would hate to see it but the power in cricket are talking about it to open up avenues for more 20/20 cricket.
          20/20 is where the money is with out it Cricket in general will suffer.
          I don't watch the IPL anymore it is a monster and I now find it boring.

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          • CyclopsC Cyclops

            @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

            It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

            Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

            But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

            I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

            Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

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            @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

            It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

            Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

            But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

            I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

            Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

            It's not a compelling stay on the couch all day watch like test cricket. More like a check in check out on in the background sort of thing. Or check the 15 minute highlights after

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

              It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

              Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

              But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

              I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

              Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

              It's not a compelling stay on the couch all day watch like test cricket. More like a check in check out on in the background sort of thing. Or check the 15 minute highlights after

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              @canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

              It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

              Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

              But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

              I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

              Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

              It's not a compelling stay on the couch all day watch like test cricket. More like a check in check out on in the background sort of thing. Or check the 15 minute highlights after

              it's popular as it's a short night out, few beers with your mates, see some big hits, etc. Which is fine, but doesn't keep me engaged long term.

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                It has encouraged guys to score more quickly at test level so there’s that. That’s a good thing in terms of far more results in that format.

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                  I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

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                    @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                    I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

                    I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.

                    But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !

                    The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                    20/20 has never provide anything close to that

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                      I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

                      I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.

                      But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !

                      The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                      20/20 has never provide anything close to that

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                      @MN5

                      There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

                      For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @MN5

                        There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

                        For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

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                        @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                        @MN5

                        There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

                        > For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

                        Yeah very much. The bowler with the ‘least shit’ run rate is lauded as doing well and I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six. Back in the day hitters like Viv Richards, Beefy and our very own Lance Cairns had to fight so much more to earn the half dozens.

                        A six should still be a ‘sit up and take notice’ moment but they get monotonous when there are lots of them

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                          @MN5

                          There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

                          > For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

                          Yeah very much. The bowler with the ‘least shit’ run rate is lauded as doing well and I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six. Back in the day hitters like Viv Richards, Beefy and our very own Lance Cairns had to fight so much more to earn the half dozens.

                          A six should still be a ‘sit up and take notice’ moment but they get monotonous when there are lots of them

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                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                          I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six

                          I'll die on that hill with you.

                          The moment a few years agon against SA when a spinner induced a shit top edge at Hamilton and it sailed over the fielder on the boundary was super frustrating.

                          Golf reigned in club technology because the courses started playing too short. Cricket could consider something similar very easily

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                            I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

                            I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.

                            But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !

                            The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                            20/20 has never provide anything close to that

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                            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                            he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                            Should have posted a spoiler alert

                            https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/youre-a-stupid-asshole-kyle-broflovski-south-park-the-passion-of-the-jew-s8e4-gif-22281228

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                            • dogmeatD dogmeat

                              @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                              he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                              Should have posted a spoiler alert

                              https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/youre-a-stupid-asshole-kyle-broflovski-south-park-the-passion-of-the-jew-s8e4-gif-22281228

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                              @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                              @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                              he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                              Should have posted a spoiler alert

                              https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/youre-a-stupid-asshole-kyle-broflovski-south-park-the-passion-of-the-jew-s8e4-gif-22281228

                              Yeah I can see into the future. They'll really need to keep an eye on Ben Stokes and I hope that stupid boundary law gets tidied up.

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                                Chapman loves Pakistan. Shame he can't play like this against everyone else. He looks so good when he's batting well too.

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                                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                  Chapman loves Pakistan. Shame he can't play like this against everyone else. He looks so good when he's batting well too.

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                                  @Cyclops he looked world class tonight. Placement off the charts

                                  I'm getting lagered up in the stands. Good night out, despite the shit result for the women

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                                    I know it’s Eden Park with postage stamp boundaries, but our bowling is trash!

                                    Too many freebie half volleys or half trackers

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                                      I repeat, trash.

                                      Pakistan have this wrapped up with 6 overs to go, run rate required down to a run a ball, 9 wickets in hand.

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                                        Pretty tough day for both the men and the women. Both would have probably felt like they had a total that was defendable at the break, but both were probably 50+ runs short.

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                                          Some ugly bowling figures there, only Neesh going for under 10.

                                          Am absolute hiding

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