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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    I'm genuinely surprised by this decision and I think I feel a bit sorry for Razor. I didn't agree with lots of his decisions (probably common of most coaches) and don't think the team was going well but I thought he would have been given a chance to right the ship. Unfortunately for him I think he's suffered from the fact Fozzie wasn't replaced last time.

    The difference between Razor and Foz mid-cycle is Foz had the dressing room and Razor lost it.

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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2026:

    Beauden Barrett is Harold Shipman for Allblack coaches. He gets them all in the end.

    I thought (from the thread) BB was team Razor?

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    I'm genuinely surprised by this decision and I think I feel a bit sorry for Razor. I didn't agree with lots of his decisions (probably common of most coaches) and don't think the team was going well but I thought he would have been given a chance to right the ship. Unfortunately for him I think he's suffered from the fact Fozzie wasn't replaced last time.

    The difference between Razor and Foz mid-cycle is Foz had the dressing room and Razor lost it.

    Ah yeah, fair enough.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    TBH, I'll be disappointed if the assistants remain when Razor goes, although the buck stops with him I think they've all contributed to how things stand.

    The new coach will say he doesn't want them.
    Simple.

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    @Frank yes they all will be moved on over the coming days or weeks even Ryan , Schmidt will not work with at all.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Frank yes they all will be moved on over the coming days or weeks even Ryan , Schmidt will not work with at all.

    So Schmidt has the inside line over JJ? Apologies, I’m on holiday and have arrived very late to the thread and there are soooo many messages!

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2026:

    Tony Brown and Jamie Joseph.
    Finally, a couple of bros in charge!!!

    Add some Rennie for some PI bro. 😉

    Edit: And Tana as manager.

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    @voodoo not head coach apparently but involved but Kirk and Mealamu big fan of Schmidt so he's meet with both over last couple weeks.

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    @george33 cheers

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    Do they get paid out for the four years or was it only a 2 year deal? If so maybe Razor can surf for two years and get paid whilst doing it.

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    @chimoaus Kirk said Razor doesn't get paid out in press conference.

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    As I said couple days ago Kirk and Mealamu are a different beast, no bullshit you stay or go .
    And I like that approach

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @chimoaus Kirk said Razor doesn't get paid out in press conference.

    Paid out or paid out the contract? I'd guess he'll be getting gardening leave cash.

    I assume, with no knowledge at all, that they reached an agreement where Razor has resigned and will get some kind of payout and a discount on his non compete (which is likely unenforceable anyway from a legal standpoint but might keep some teams away from a moral standpoint).

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    While Kirk said Razor won't be getting paid out the final two years of his contract. It is highly likely there will be a set amount in an early termination clause.

    Kirk also said there is a stand down period before Razor can work work another tier one nation. Stated it is about a year.

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    @SouthernMann so he can line up England after the world cup. Don't let Hoskins near the Tyne bridge.

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    @Nepia although he's the architect of his own demise, I surmise that Robinson has done him absolutely no favours.

    Surely a competent CEO would have stepped in when he got wind that the All Black coach he was instrumental in appointing (and I don't for a second believe otherwise) wasn't in fact the coach?

    Surely such a mythical CEO would've heard and acted on the rumblings of discontent?

    Either way it is apparent to all now that Razor was appointed to the position without the necessary grounding, experience and support. Hopefully NZR acknowledge this and have acted to ensure that Ellison isn't appointed as defence coach the same mistakes aren't made again.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:

    Surely a competent CEO would have stepped in

    This reflects poorly on Robinson, as well as Dame Patsy and the previous board.

    Kirk has made a big call, and time will tell. It seems right based on feedback, but crikey.

    Also triggers the need to look at the appointment process. Experience in various fields is important. @Victor-Meldrew and I were vocal about him not necessarily being a miracle worker, while hoping he would be. Very disappointing reign, conservative and insular are the first two words that spring to mind. Where's the bravery in selections? Where's the bloke who dropped Crockett for a final?

    All the best to Razor, hopefully a better trajectory with JJ and Kirk

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:

    Ellison

    Kidwell.

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    So Kirk and Mealamu talked to about 20 players, and most agreed there were problems, so it's not one or 2 who caused it.

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