All Blacks 2026
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agree
the player power element to the dismissal is over-rated
and it wasn't the results either, win/loss was ok
it was what was actually happening at game time, on the field, that caused them to act
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
Sumo on Sports nation
Inside scoop before any announcement was that it was player led by Beauden and Ardie, and Kirk coming out and defending them specifically near guarantees that was the case. They haven’t announced the new coach as yet, but Joseph is effectively the ONLY coach available, was seen in NZR prior to the announcement, with the Highlanders training disrupted as a result says they’re only waiting to do so to avoid the confirmation it was a hit job. Dame Patsy and RobINson’s atrocious mismanagement of the organisation is what’s played out here, and it’s all butt covering at Razors and the sides expense.
Stevenson believe him or not
I think this is were George got his info about no crusaders interviewed.
I though BB was team Razor?
Also, I tend not to believe Sumo, he once called me the C word on here.
CentralViking?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
I was about to say Sumo is normally wrong but after your post mmmmmm
I thought from Nepia's POV the C word would be Cantabrian or Crusader?
Definitely Canes
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
Sumo on Sports nation
Inside scoop before any announcement was that it was player led by Beauden and Ardie, and Kirk coming out and defending them specifically near guarantees that was the case. They haven’t announced the new coach as yet, but Joseph is effectively the ONLY coach available, was seen in NZR prior to the announcement, with the Highlanders training disrupted as a result says they’re only waiting to do so to avoid the confirmation it was a hit job. Dame Patsy and RobINson’s atrocious mismanagement of the organisation is what’s played out here, and it’s all butt covering at Razors and the sides expense.
Stevenson believe him or not
I think this is were George got his info about no crusaders interviewed.
Dame Patsy: nominative determinism?
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:
- First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
- First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
- Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
- How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?
Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly
Jesus Jimmy, you should run a course on Positivity
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2026:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:
- First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
- First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
- Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
- How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?
Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly
Jesus Jimmy, you should run a course on Positivity
Better to be pleasantly surprised than bitterly disappointed
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Thoughts? Why on earth wasn't Wayne Smith (NZR's director of high-performance) consulted before the decision was made?
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@restofit said in All Blacks 2026:
Thoughts? Why on earth wasn't Wayne Smith (NZR's director of high-performance) consulted before the decision was made?
Prolly because it wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome?
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@restofit said in All Blacks 2026:
Thoughts? Why on earth wasn't Wayne Smith (NZR's director of high-performance) consulted before the decision was made?
Why wasn't Wayne Smith called on to help guide Razor? I seem to recall he spent time in camp at various points in the season, did he not realise things were going bad?
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Meh. Sumo trying to stay relevant.
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@restofit said in All Blacks 2026:
Thoughts? Why on earth wasn't Wayne Smith (NZR's director of high-performance) consulted before the decision was made?
First of all, love that this is an article about an article about an article.
Second, the whole Wayne Smith is a little bit perplexing.
Know Smith struggled a little bit working with Robertson so wouldn't expect him to have jumped to Razor's defence (and laud his competence). Suppose it's possible to not gel with someone but still think they deserve time in the saddle but it's a little odd.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Meh. Sumo trying to stay relevant.
Seems like he's off base. Where was he when Robinson was CEO? I don't remember him calling Mark a clown
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
@restofit said in All Blacks 2026:
Thoughts? Why on earth wasn't Wayne Smith (NZR's director of high-performance) consulted before the decision was made?
First of all, love that this is an article about an article about an article.
Second, the whole Wayne Smith is a little bit perplexing.
Know Smith struggled a little bit working with Robertson so wouldn't expect him to have jumped to Razor's defence (and laud his competence). Suppose it's possible to not gel with someone but still think they deserve time in the saddle but it's a little odd.
Smith had a difficult working relationship with Razor? A pattern seems to be emerging....
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Meh. Sumo trying to stay relevant.
Seems like he's off base. Where was he when Robinson was CEO? I don't remember him calling Mark a clown
Exactly. And the dressing room had spiralled out of control, the reports were damning.
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@restofit said in All Blacks 2026:
Thoughts? Why on earth wasn't Wayne Smith (NZR's director of high-performance) consulted before the decision was made?
NZR have acted like clowns. That seems to have stopped as of last week. Hopefully.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
Know Smith struggled a little bit working with Robertson so wouldn't expect him to have jumped to Razor's defence (and laud his competence). Suppose it's possible to not gel with someone but still think they deserve time in the saddle but it's a little odd.
I took it as just one coach going on the record and backing up another coach.
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@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
Know Smith struggled a little bit working with Robertson so wouldn't expect him to have jumped to Razor's defence (and laud his competence). Suppose it's possible to not gel with someone but still think they deserve time in the saddle but it's a little odd.
I took it as just one coach going on the record and backing up another coach.
Coaches' union type business, couldn't really say anything else (on the record).Interestingly, no other coaches that close to the situation have jumped to Razor's defence
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Everybody seems to have seen the reports but me.
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Interesting article by Gregor Paul on coach selection
Points out that last two coaches were chasing assistants - some at the same time - and it ended up like playground team-picking. Thinks it will be different this time with NZR choosing the HC and then the assistants, the latter with the new HC's input.
