B&I Lions 2017
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@booboo said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:
@booboo said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:
@MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:
Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.
At the moment if fit
Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams
Reality
Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams
I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?
Is it a bit like "edges" in loigue?
What does that mean? I dont watch boofball.
Don't watch a shit load myself, but they seem to station a mini team on each side of the field for attack.
Usually a centre, a second rower and wing. Maybe a prop.
Instead of calling the sides of the field the sides of the field they call them edges.
I think the distribution of those players is down to said players ability to run, step, pass etc as the play flows a certain way.
if you go back 20 odd years ago in league , maybe more ,
they tended to have all or most of the forwards around the ruck area and the blindside , and the backs would normally form up in orthodox fashion on the openside of the field , from halfback , stand off , inside center outside C,
i played both codes , it was a pain the arse if you were an outside centre having to keep swapping to each side of the field ,
then they came up with the idea of left and right centres staying inside the wingers on each side of the field , its less complex , but somehow they have evolved with that role into being closer to second row forwards and less like the specialist centres who tended to run into open space a lot more , like they still do in union IMO
@kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:
i played both codes , it was a pain the arse if you were an outside centre having to keep swapping to each side of the field ,
Yeah - I played a bit of outside centre at school many years ago and that's my lasting memory of that position - the amount of running from side to side you had to do to get into position...
...and playing outside greedy bastard first (especially) and second fives who rarely sent the ball down the chain.
I played games where it was like fielding at fine leg in cricket! Except it was fucking cold and you occasionally had to tackle some bastard.
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@kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:
i played both codes , it was a pain the arse if you were an outside centre having to keep swapping to each side of the field ,
Yeah - I played a bit of outside centre at school many years ago and that's my lasting memory of that position - the amount of running from side to side you had to do to get into position...
...and playing outside greedy bastard first (especially) and second fives who rarely sent the ball down the chain.
I played games where it was like fielding at fine leg in cricket! Except it was fucking cold and you occasionally had to tackle some bastard.
@Chris-B. said in B&I Lions 2017:
@kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:
i played both codes , it was a pain the arse if you were an outside centre having to keep swapping to each side of the field ,
Yeah - I played a bit of outside centre at school many years ago and that's my lasting memory of that position - the amount of running from side to side you had to do to get into position...
...and playing outside greedy bastard first (especially) and second fives who rarely sent the ball down the chain.
I played games where it was like fielding at fine leg in cricket! Except it was fucking cold and you occasionally had to tackle some bastard.
Or if you made a decent run and your looking for a break to get your breath back in the line , then someone yells at you to get back in position , on the other fucken side of the field
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@Chris-B. said in B&I Lions 2017:
@kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:
i played both codes , it was a pain the arse if you were an outside centre having to keep swapping to each side of the field ,
Yeah - I played a bit of outside centre at school many years ago and that's my lasting memory of that position - the amount of running from side to side you had to do to get into position...
...and playing outside greedy bastard first (especially) and second fives who rarely sent the ball down the chain.
I played games where it was like fielding at fine leg in cricket! Except it was fucking cold and you occasionally had to tackle some bastard.
Or if you made a decent run and your looking for a break to get your breath back in the line , then someone yells at you to get back in position , on the other fucken side of the field
@kiwiinmelb every flanker ever read that and gave a sneer of derision
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@kiwiinmelb every flanker ever read that and gave a sneer of derision
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@mariner4life At least, the ones who can read did.
Now get back to groveling in the fucking mud and stop interrupting our intellectual discourse.
@Chris-B. "intellectual discourse"? Is that what you guys are doing while the rest of us are playing rugby?
"No, we don't want it until it's quick ball and there is no one in front of us, you guys keep it"
"okay now! shit, I've dropped it. okay, scrum for them, we'll have a bit more of a chat"Parasites living off the hard work of others
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@Chris-B. "intellectual discourse"? Is that what you guys are doing while the rest of us are playing rugby?
"No, we don't want it until it's quick ball and there is no one in front of us, you guys keep it"
"okay now! shit, I've dropped it. okay, scrum for them, we'll have a bit more of a chat"Parasites living off the hard work of others
@mariner4life Acute tactical appreciation.
"Look at those two stunning babes on the sideline. If you drop the ball on the 22 line, we should be ideally situated to flex our manly backs' muscles at them, while the peasants fuck about collapsing their scrums and rubbing each others faces in the mud".
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@mariner4life Acute tactical appreciation.
"Look at those two stunning babes on the sideline. If you drop the ball on the 22 line, we should be ideally situated to flex our manly backs' muscles at them, while the peasants fuck about collapsing their scrums and rubbing each others faces in the mud".
@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
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@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
@taniwharugby Which it obviously was - through "magnificent speed, strength and skill".
"And what do those fat boys do?" she asked.
"You mean other than take up space... ha ha ha...".
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To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
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@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
Whether it was or wasn't the backs end up looking up the skirt of some hotty while the forwards look at the bottom of an empty glass.
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@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
Whether it was or wasn't the backs end up looking up the skirt of some hotty while the forwards look at the bottom of an empty glass.
I never saw the problem.@Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:
@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
Whether it was or wasn't the backs end up looking up the skirt of some hotty while the forwards look at the bottom of an empty glass.
I never saw the problem.And the truth was spoken. As the good book says - the meek shall inherit the earth.
And the totty, blondes, autographs, Stuart Barnes All-Time Favourite All-Blacks, comp tix, etc, etc
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@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
Physical tickets to Maori and Barbarians have landed already.
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@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
Whether it was or wasn't the backs end up looking up the skirt of some hotty while the forwards look at the bottom of an empty glass.
I never saw the problem.@Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:
@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Chris-B. yep, and after the game while the forwards are having a quiet beer reflecting on that ruck he didn't hit hard enough, or the tackle that was almost slipped, the backs are out there preening and congratulating one another in front of the women claiming the game was won by them!
Whether it was or wasn't the backs end up looking up the skirt of some hotty while the forwards look at the bottom of an empty glass.
I never saw the problem.just bided our time...waiting for the backs to, er, drop the ball so to speak.
Anywhoo, got my tickets for the opening game weeks ago, have heard lots of people yet to receive them.
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@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
Physical tickets to Maori and Barbarians have landed already.
@nzzp said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
Physical tickets to Maori and Barbarians have landed already.
We've got our tickets for both the Maori and Chiefs games.
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@nzzp said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
Physical tickets to Maori and Barbarians have landed already.
We've got our tickets for both the Maori and Chiefs games.
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
@nzzp said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
Physical tickets to Maori and Barbarians have landed already.
We've got our tickets for both the Maori and Chiefs games.
We haven't received the Chiefs tickets yet. Really annoying.
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Massive long shot, but it turns out I'll be in Auckland for the weekend of the third Test. If anyone knows of any tickets for sale, or any way of getting them, I'd be all ears.
@SimonAdd_2 there might be a few available after the 2nd test...
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@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
@nzzp said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
Physical tickets to Maori and Barbarians have landed already.
We've got our tickets for both the Maori and Chiefs games.
We haven't received the Chiefs tickets yet. Really annoying.
@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
@nzzp said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Unco said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
To change the subject slightly, has anyone who got their test tickets via the ballot received them yet? I know tickets for the non-test games have been sent but I wasn't sure about the test tickets. There is still a month to go though.
What tickets have gone out? I haven't gotten any yet.
Physical tickets to Maori and Barbarians have landed already.
We've got our tickets for both the Maori and Chiefs games.
We haven't received the Chiefs tickets yet. Really annoying.
Another thing where NZ is falling into the worldwide 'process'. Lots of tickets for gigs, games etc now aren't sent out until the week before in the UK.
I guess it is an attempt to cut reselling down as you are less likely to put another link in the chain of waiting for it and trusting it will arrive. The likes of Viagogo have had to start setting up collection booths for sellers to drop tickets off last minute for pickups. -
I'm not sure that'd work in rugby would it? The defensive paterns are so much more set because of the far higher amount of set piece & semi set piece ball that the centres swapping around on sides would be a nightmare. 12 & 13 are hugely different defensive positions in union. Does anyone play left & right? It seems like the sort of thing the Aussies might have tried at some stage...
@gollum said in B&I Lions 2017:
12 & 13 are hugely different defensive positions in union. Does anyone play left & right? It seems like the sort of thing the Aussies might have tried at some stage
A left/right setup elsewhere in the team has often been favoured by the French with a pair of left/right flankers instead of open-/blindside.
But they also do that very French thing of having guys who play 9/10 (other than a few exceptions like Ruan Pienaar and the numerically-fluid Giteau).
Sometimes multi-position players are the definition of Jack-of-all-trades (for England: Austin Healey: 9/10/wing/fullback - though good enough to be twice a Lion)
and others are masters of more than one (for Ireland: Mike Gibson, 10/12/13, and occasional 14, and 5 Lions Tours).
