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  • TimT Tim

    @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

    There could be a mass exodus of No 10s after next year's Super Rugby season. Three or four by my count.

    Barrett is signed through 2027, so probably not him.

    Plummer, Perofeta, Cameron, Trask?

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    @Tim said in Exodus:

    @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

    There could be a mass exodus of No 10s after next year's Super Rugby season. Three or four by my count.

    Barrett is signed through 2027, so probably not him.

    Plummer, Perofeta, Cameron, Trask?

    Cameron is signed at the Canes for 2026

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      Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

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      • M Mr Fish

        Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

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        @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

        Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

        Pinning your hopes on a guy who may or may not come back to NZ and who has no guarantee of being the player he was when he left? I hope that isn't Razor's master plan

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        • M Mr Fish

          There could be a mass exodus of No 10s after next year's Super Rugby season. Three or four by my count.

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          @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

          There could be a mass exodus of No 10s after next year's Super Rugby season. Three or four by my count.

          That's not surprising when the rumor is that they are treading water until Mo'jnga returns.

          The fascinating one for me is Dmac, he is worth so much money in Japan that it will be interesting to see what he does if / when Mo'unga returns.

          The Blues looked like they were stacking 10s, if Perofeta also goes overseas, they could go to old man Barrett and some kids very quickly.

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            Plummer leaving because he most likely can’t see a path into the 2027 World Cup(barring injury) with if/when Richie Mounga is back in 2026. Don’t blame the guy, he’s got his AB cap so might as well cash in.

            It’s a real shame imo, this could have been handled so much better. Player management is leaving a lot to be desired, not just in the AB’s, but NZR in general. A very promising 10/12 leaving at the age of 26 coming into his peak, brutal.

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            • Landers92L Landers92

              Plummer leaving because he most likely can’t see a path into the 2027 World Cup(barring injury) with if/when Richie Mounga is back in 2026. Don’t blame the guy, he’s got his AB cap so might as well cash in.

              It’s a real shame imo, this could have been handled so much better. Player management is leaving a lot to be desired, not just in the AB’s, but NZR in general. A very promising 10/12 leaving at the age of 26 coming into his peak, brutal.

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              @Landers92

              It's a shame because I believe our attack would benefit from a 10 who runs more direct.

              Dmac and BB love to run sideways - or in Beauden's case jog sideways.

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                #2570

                Moses Leo joining the Melbourne Storm a year earlier than anticipated. Will link up with them late this month.

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                  Bringing Richie Mo must be costing the NZRU a lot of coin. Will it be worth it if Dmac is off the scene? Hopefully we get some quality 10s who step up next year in Super Rugby.

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                  • Landers92L Landers92

                    Moses Leo joining the Melbourne Storm a year earlier than anticipated. Will link up with them late this month.

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                    @Landers92 heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract
                    Would have developed into a superb centre in the XVs game
                    His top end pace would be better than many
                    For me this is a genuine loss given the shortage of midfield backs in NZ

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

                      Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

                      Pinning your hopes on a guy who may or may not come back to NZ and who has no guarantee of being the player he was when he left? I hope that isn't Razor's master plan

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                      @canefan said in Exodus:

                      @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

                      Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

                      Pinning your hopes on a guy who may or may not come back to NZ and who has no guarantee of being the player he was when he left? I hope that isn't Razor's master plan

                      and in fairness....even the player he was when he left wasn;t withing critique at international level

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @canefan said in Exodus:

                        @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

                        Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

                        Pinning your hopes on a guy who may or may not come back to NZ and who has no guarantee of being the player he was when he left? I hope that isn't Razor's master plan

                        and in fairness....even the player he was when he left wasn;t withing critique at international level

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in Exodus:

                        @canefan said in Exodus:

                        @Mr-Fish said in Exodus:

                        Contracts are pretty fluid nowadays. A lot likely rests on when Mo'unga returns to NZ.

                        Pinning your hopes on a guy who may or may not come back to NZ and who has no guarantee of being the player he was when he left? I hope that isn't Razor's master plan

                        and in fairness....even the player he was when he left wasn;t withing critique at international level

                        He was no DC. But neither is anyone else. If they overpay him to get him home, I don't like the message it sends. DMac might have just turned a corner in Dublin only for Razor to bench him for sub prime BB. Meanwhile there are young and up and coming guys in lots of positions that could do with more money to incentivise them to stay longer, and guys like Plummer who decide it's time to leave when they are still in their prime

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                          of course, cant compare anyone to DC really...but those out there that think a 30 year old RM will come back and be DC level good after time overseas and solve all problems....are a worry

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                            @Landers92 heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract
                            Would have developed into a superb centre in the XVs game
                            His top end pace would be better than many
                            For me this is a genuine loss given the shortage of midfield backs in NZ

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                            @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

                            heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

                            A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

                            Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

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                              of course, cant compare anyone to DC really...but those out there that think a 30 year old RM will come back and be DC level good after time overseas and solve all problems....are a worry

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Exodus:

                              of course, cant compare anyone to DC really...but those out there that think a 30 year old RM will come back and be DC level good after time overseas and solve all problems....are a worry

                              Totally agree. The person we should be most worried about is Razor

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

                                heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

                                A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

                                Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

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                                @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

                                heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

                                A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

                                Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

                                $75K? No wonder he's off

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                  @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

                                  heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

                                  A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

                                  Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

                                  $75K? No wonder he's off

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                                  @booboo said in Exodus:

                                  @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                  @Steven-Harris said in Exodus:

                                  heard from a good source he would have stayed in Rugby if his NPC contract had been topped up as he was only 41k with his NZ 7s contract

                                  A fully contracted sevens player gets SR level salaries don't they? Edit: the lowest tier retainer is $50K.

                                  Leo's PU contract would be a minimum of $25K.

                                  $75K? No wonder he's off

                                  even the 30th dude on the roster gets $130k

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                                    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/534308/who-are-our-greatest-rugby-exports-to-europe-the-top-10?fbclid=IwY2xjawGqK0xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQYfnTCS45_N0z9b2NjNU87TpkWmaCfZajpnlLCl9-ymZTrB0CLHB8cmYw_aem_Jp8BM-_GU2geIeU8gNje7A

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                                      that is a remarkably pedestrian list.

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                                      • mikedogzM mikedogz

                                        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/534308/who-are-our-greatest-rugby-exports-to-europe-the-top-10?fbclid=IwY2xjawGqK0xleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQYfnTCS45_N0z9b2NjNU87TpkWmaCfZajpnlLCl9-ymZTrB0CLHB8cmYw_aem_Jp8BM-_GU2geIeU8gNje7A

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                                        @mikedogz Charles Piutau and Steven Luatua don't appear to be in this guy's lists.

                                        They're probably the two that I would most have liked to keep.

                                        Based on these lists, anyway, we haven't been too badly hurt by the exodus to Europe. Some guys who turned out to be very handy, but not many superstars.

                                        Bundee was one who got away.

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                                          I don't think they were added as they went to Samoa and Tonga at international level. These lists are more six nations teams.

                                          20 to 11

                                          https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/533600/who-are-our-greatest-rugby-exports-to-europe-part-one

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