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  • canefanC canefan

    @game_film said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

    Great. So by the time we get to RWC 27 we could be sans Plummer and DMac, and BB should be totally cooked by then. Razor better hope that RM comes back as good or better than he left

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    @canefan I think DMac will only sign short term so he’ll be back. Crying shame if his RWC career was missing 19 then being a bench warmer in 2023.

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    • B BorderJB

      I think these money making tests need to be an ABs XV team, maybe 10-15 players from the fringe ABs squad, an extra on top of our July home tests.

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      @BorderJB that's pretty much how the french will be treating these games anyway

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        If the ABs do adopt a new policy for sabbaticals allowing players to spend a full year away (perhaps two) and still be eligible for selection (as discussed in the article posted in another thread), Dmac may be the first to take advantage of it.

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          If the ABs do adopt a new policy for sabbaticals allowing players to spend a full year away (perhaps two) and still be eligible for selection (as discussed in the article posted in another thread), Dmac may be the first to take advantage of it.

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          • F frugby

            It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.

            I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.

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            @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

            It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.

            I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.

            You and your "logic and reasoning".

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              I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

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                I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

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                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                Yes to the latter, no to the former..... form should fucking count, not form from two years ago. Hopefully he learns that.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                  I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                  If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                    If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                    If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                    Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                    ... Or be injured

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                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                      Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                      ... Or be injured

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                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                      Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                      ... Or be injured

                      Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

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                      • A African Monkey

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                        If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                        Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                        ... Or be injured

                        Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

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                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                        If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                        Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                        ... Or be injured

                        Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

                        And maybe Sotutu after he moves to England 😂

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                        • A African Monkey

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                          If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                          Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                          ... Or be injured

                          Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

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                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                          If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                          Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                          ... Or be injured

                          Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

                          Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience

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                            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                            If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                            Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                            ... Or be injured

                            Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

                            Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience

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                            canefan
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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                            If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                            Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                            ... Or be injured

                            Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

                            Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience

                            Wallace has done more with less experience than Frizell ever did

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                              If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                              If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                              I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                              Must be close to being unprecedented.

                              A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

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                                The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

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                                • ToddyT Toddy

                                  The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

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                                  @Toddy said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

                                  Troy Flavell did have a terrific season I must say

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                                    SBW1
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                                    Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

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                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                                      I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                                      Must be close to being unprecedented.

                                      A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

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                                      ACT Crusader
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                                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                                      I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                                      Must be close to being unprecedented.

                                      A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

                                      Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                        If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                                        I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                                        Must be close to being unprecedented.

                                        A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

                                        Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                        If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                                        I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                                        Must be close to being unprecedented.

                                        A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

                                        Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.

                                        Who was the incumbent All Black that year?

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                                        • S SBW1

                                          Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

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                                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

                                          If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.

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