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  • M Machpants

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

    If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

    Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
    ... Or be injured

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    African Monkey
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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

    If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

    Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
    ... Or be injured

    Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

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      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

      Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
      ... Or be injured

      Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

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      DaGrubster
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      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

      Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
      ... Or be injured

      Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

      And maybe Sotutu after he moves to England 😂

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      • A African Monkey

        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

        If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

        Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
        ... Or be injured

        Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

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        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

        If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

        Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
        ... Or be injured

        Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

        Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience

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        • M Machpants

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

          If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

          Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
          ... Or be injured

          Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

          Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience

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          canefan
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          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

          If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

          Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
          ... Or be injured

          Breaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......

          Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience

          Wallace has done more with less experience than Frizell ever did

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

            If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

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            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

            If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

            I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

            Must be close to being unprecedented.

            A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

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              The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

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                The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

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                @Toddy said in All Blacks 2025:

                The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

                Troy Flavell did have a terrific season I must say

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                  Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

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                  • D DaGrubster

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                    If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                    I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                    Must be close to being unprecedented.

                    A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

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                    ACT Crusader
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                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                    If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                    I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                    Must be close to being unprecedented.

                    A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

                    Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                      I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                      Must be close to being unprecedented.

                      A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

                      Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.

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                      canefan
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                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                      If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                      I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .

                      Must be close to being unprecedented.

                      A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham

                      Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.

                      Who was the incumbent All Black that year?

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                      • S SBW1

                        Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

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                        WoodysRFC
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                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

                        If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.

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                        • W WoodysRFC

                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

                          If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.

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                          MN5
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                          @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

                          If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.

                          Indeed. I’m sure someone else would have been happy to make all those tackles he would have missed too.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

                            If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.

                            Indeed. I’m sure someone else would have been happy to make all those tackles he would have missed too.

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                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?

                            If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.

                            Indeed. I’m sure someone else would have been happy to make all those tackles he would have missed too.

                            That'd be whoever was cleaning up for Will Jordan. Just to be clear, our inability to clear from kick off receipt was a huge contributor on why we lost that one. No point scoring in multiples of threes if you're immediately under pressure the very next phase. Might not help when we've a fullback who is fairly predictable and has a bang average right hand pass and kick.

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                              African Monkey
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                              On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

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                              • A African Monkey

                                On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

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                                Bones
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                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                  Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                  Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

                                  Not being from Canterbury is his biggest weakness of all

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                    Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                    Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

                                    Yeah those were my thoughts too. He's a bit of a wasted talent and is a proper fullback, something we don't really seem to produce these days. Dare I say he's the best all round fullback in the country? The rest are just hybrid 10s and Jordan looks like a winger trying to play fullback, similar to Charles Piutau in the 2010s.

                                    He missed a couple of tackles on the wing in his 1 test and has been given the cold shoulder ever since.

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                                    • A African Monkey

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                      Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

                                      Yeah those were my thoughts too. He's a bit of a wasted talent and is a proper fullback, something we don't really seem to produce these days. Dare I say he's the best all round fullback in the country? The rest are just hybrid 10s and Jordan looks like a winger trying to play fullback, similar to Charles Piutau in the 2010s.

                                      He missed a couple of tackles on the wing in his 1 test and has been given the cold shoulder ever since.

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                                      Bones
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                                      @African-Monkey has a great combination with DMac too, Bernie and Stu like.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                        Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                        Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

                                        McMillan is a top coach isn't he?

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                                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                          Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

                                          McMillan is a top coach isn't he?

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                                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

                                          Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

                                          McMillan is a top coach isn't he?

                                          For backs/defence?

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