All Blacks 2025
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It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.
I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.
I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.
You and your "logic and reasoning".
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injured@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injuredBreaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injuredBreaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injuredBreaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......
And maybe Sotutu after he moves to England
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injuredBreaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injuredBreaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......
Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injuredBreaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......
Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
... Or be injuredBreaking the overseas rules to bring back Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizzell.......
Remember Frizzell made a tackle in a RWC final, only one, but still - experience
Wallace has done more with less experience than Frizell ever did
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .
Must be close to being unprecedented.
A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .
Must be close to being unprecedented.
A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .
Must be close to being unprecedented.
A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham
Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .
Must be close to being unprecedented.
A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham
Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.
If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.
I wonder if that has ever happened before? The player of the competition and eligible for the national team but ignored for selection .
Must be close to being unprecedented.
A part of me hope he goes to England and rips it up for them at Twickenham
Josh Blackie was the best performing openside during one super season and he didn’t make it. The year he made the 7s side.
Who was the incumbent All Black that year?
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?
If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.
@WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?
If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.
Indeed. I’m sure someone else would have been happy to make all those tackles he would have missed too.
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@WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?
If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.
Indeed. I’m sure someone else would have been happy to make all those tackles he would have missed too.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Weren't they also saying something similar about Shaun Stevenson two seasons ago?
If only we had his long accurate clearance kicking during that game against France.
Indeed. I’m sure someone else would have been happy to make all those tackles he would have missed too.
That'd be whoever was cleaning up for Will Jordan. Just to be clear, our inability to clear from kick off receipt was a huge contributor on why we lost that one. No point scoring in multiples of threes if you're immediately under pressure the very next phase. Might not help when we've a fullback who is fairly predictable and has a bang average right hand pass and kick.
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On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.
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On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.
Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!
