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  • BonesB Bones

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

    Fihaki looked good last night ...

    Apart from when he waved in the first try? Stephenson would have got crucified for that.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

    Fihaki looked good last night ...

    Apart from when he waved in the first try? Stephenson would have got crucified for that.

    He's not the greatest of defenders that's for sure.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

      Fihaki looked good last night ...

      Apart from when he waved in the first try? Stephenson would have got crucified for that.

      He's not the greatest of defenders that's for sure.

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      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

      Fihaki looked good last night ...

      Apart from when he waved in the first try? Stephenson would have got crucified for that.

      He's not the greatest of defenders that's for sure.

      I see nothing in his game that isn't done the same or better by the likes of ENS, Lam, Tangitau, Stephenson....

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      • BonesB Bones

        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

        Fihaki looked good last night ...

        Apart from when he waved in the first try? Stephenson would have got crucified for that.

        He's not the greatest of defenders that's for sure.

        I see nothing in his game that isn't done the same or better by the likes of ENS, Lam, Tangitau, Stephenson....

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

        Fihaki looked good last night ...

        Apart from when he waved in the first try? Stephenson would have got crucified for that.

        He's not the greatest of defenders that's for sure.

        I see nothing in his game that isn't done the same or better by the likes of ENS, Lam, Tangitau, Stephenson....

        Neither, and as you pointed out, he's an awful defender currently. The try you pointed out and his miss on Miracle Fa'ilagi in the Moana Pasifika game being 2 examples of that.

        But yeah, if it were Shaun Stevenson, every man and his dog would be out in full force letting everyone know about it.

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          Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

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          • boobooB booboo

            Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

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            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

            Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

            Didn't he hit a purple patch about this point last season? I thought he was better last year, but might not be as noticeable when you're getting beat.

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            • M Machpants

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              Fabian Holland looking every inch an All Black in waiting.

              Only this match, not been that amazing up until now. More games the same required, one offs don't cut it, imo

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              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              Fabian Holland looking every inch an All Black in waiting.

              Only this match, not been that amazing up until now. More games the same required, one offs don't cut it, imo

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              Fabian Holland looking every inch an All Black in waiting.

              Only this match, not been that amazing up until now. More games the same required, one offs don't cut it, imo

              I think he's looked pretty good all season, except maybe quiet last week.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

                Didn't he hit a purple patch about this point last season? I thought he was better last year, but might not be as noticeable when you're getting beat.

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                #1483

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

                Didn't he hit a purple patch about this point last season? I thought he was better last year, but might not be as noticeable when you're getting beat.

                Couldn't tell you. Didn't notice him.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

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                  #1484

                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Hey, I'm not advocating for him. As you say there's plenty on front of him. I just noticed he did some good things. Something I've not noticed previously.

                  Setting the bar low for him then. He's 24, if he was going to make it I'd expect him to show more by now. He's got zero X factor

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                    About the only thing that Fihaki can do better than any other winger in NZ is 50+ metre kicks at goal. Says it all really.

                    Luckily for him, he is in the right colours to get the benefit of the doubt over wingers that are actually better than him in NZ.

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                      Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi. Hardly a mention yet of Darry, Ratima or Tosi.

                      It is probably the form over the next two months that will truly decide the ABs squad. If the likes of Moananu, Kirifi, Parker etc. burn out, they will not be there.

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                      • Landers92L Landers92

                        About the only thing that Fihaki can do better than any other winger in NZ is 50+ metre kicks at goal. Says it all really.

                        Luckily for him, he is in the right colours to get the benefit of the doubt over wingers that are actually better than him in NZ.

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                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        About the only thing that Fihaki can do better than any other winger in NZ is 50+ metre kicks at goal. Says it all really.

                        Luckily for him, he is in the right colours to get the benefit of the doubt over wingers that are actually better than him in NZ.

                        A good skill to have but Isn't Stevenson considered a winger as well (at higher level anyway)? I won't be a smartarse and mention Jordie ..

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                        • frugbyF frugby

                          Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi. Hardly a mention yet of Darry, Ratima or Tosi.

                          It is probably the form over the next two months that will truly decide the ABs squad. If the likes of Moananu, Kirifi, Parker etc. burn out, they will not be there.

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                          Bovidae
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                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi.

                          Sititi only first started for the Chiefs about this time last year, so that is not surprising. I agree that the backend of SR will be more important for any newbie to be in with a chance of AB selection.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Quite interesting to go back and look at previous threads. At this stage last season, people had Iose and Ioane on course for the ABs, and there were no mentions for Sititi.

                            Sititi only first started for the Chiefs about this time last year, so that is not surprising. I agree that the backend of SR will be more important for any newbie to be in with a chance of AB selection.

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                            @Bovidae Always has and always will be. Kirifi I suspect ends up being a great example of this. Assuming they see Savea & Lakai as opensides, he is going to be up against it against Blackadder and Papalii, and if the Canes form does not turn around he probably won't get to push his case in the finals.

                            FWIW, I would select him at this stage, but also, you compare him to say Tizzano or McReight, who are noted for their defensive capabilities/breakdown work, and I feel like they both offer more in possession than Kirifi. Lakai and Savea present a better all-round package.

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                              Probable Razor's pick :

                              Williams
                              Taylor
                              Lomax
                              Barrett
                              Vai'i
                              Blackadder
                              Savea
                              Sititi
                              Roigard
                              B. Barrett
                              Clarke
                              J. Barrett
                              Ioane
                              Reece
                              Jordan

                              Taukei'aho
                              De Groot
                              Newell
                              Tuipolutu
                              Finau
                              Hotham
                              ALB
                              MacKenzie

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                                Probable Razor's pick :

                                Williams
                                Taylor
                                Lomax
                                Barrett
                                Vai'i
                                Blackadder
                                Savea
                                Sititi
                                Roigard
                                B. Barrett
                                Clarke
                                J. Barrett
                                Ioane
                                Reece
                                Jordan

                                Taukei'aho
                                De Groot
                                Newell
                                Tuipolutu
                                Finau
                                Hotham
                                ALB
                                MacKenzie

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                                KiwiInLondon
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                                @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Probable Razor's pick :

                                Williams
                                Taylor
                                Lomax
                                Barrett
                                Vai'i
                                Blackadder
                                Savea
                                Sititi
                                Roigard
                                B. Barrett
                                Clarke
                                J. Barrett
                                Ioane
                                Reece
                                Jordan

                                Taukei'aho
                                De Groot
                                Newell
                                Tuipolutu
                                Finau
                                Hotham
                                ALB
                                MacKenzie

                                Finau has been the best six by a country mile. Would be outrageous to pick a seven ahead of him.

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  I'd like to see (6) Finau, (7) Savea and (8) Sititi.

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                                  • K KiwiInLondon

                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Probable Razor's pick :

                                    Williams
                                    Taylor
                                    Lomax
                                    Barrett
                                    Vai'i
                                    Blackadder
                                    Savea
                                    Sititi
                                    Roigard
                                    B. Barrett
                                    Clarke
                                    J. Barrett
                                    Ioane
                                    Reece
                                    Jordan

                                    Taukei'aho
                                    De Groot
                                    Newell
                                    Tuipolutu
                                    Finau
                                    Hotham
                                    ALB
                                    MacKenzie

                                    Finau has been the best six by a country mile. Would be outrageous to pick a seven ahead of him.

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                                    @KiwiInLondon
                                    I think this is the team Razor will select, but this is not the team I would like to see for the June series. My team (but it won't happen) :

                                    Williams
                                    Taylor
                                    Lomax
                                    Barrett
                                    Vai'i
                                    Finau
                                    Savea
                                    Sititi
                                    Roigard
                                    MacKenzie
                                    Clarke
                                    Barrett
                                    Ioane
                                    Jordan
                                    Love

                                    Taukei'aho
                                    De Groot
                                    Tosi
                                    Beehre
                                    Lakai
                                    Hotham
                                    Barrett
                                    Tavatavanawai

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                                      Crazy Horse
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                                      Jordie hasn't had much of a break has he? If not, I wonder if that will impact his effectiveness and or availability for selection?

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                                      • C cgrant

                                        @KiwiInLondon
                                        I think this is the team Razor will select, but this is not the team I would like to see for the June series. My team (but it won't happen) :

                                        Williams
                                        Taylor
                                        Lomax
                                        Barrett
                                        Vai'i
                                        Finau
                                        Savea
                                        Sititi
                                        Roigard
                                        MacKenzie
                                        Clarke
                                        Barrett
                                        Ioane
                                        Jordan
                                        Love

                                        Taukei'aho
                                        De Groot
                                        Tosi
                                        Beehre
                                        Lakai
                                        Hotham
                                        Barrett
                                        Tavatavanawai

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                                        @cgrant not so sure about Beehre and Lakai. Little issue with the rest.

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                                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                          Jordie hasn't had much of a break has he? If not, I wonder if that will impact his effectiveness and or availability for selection?

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                                          @Crazy-Horse Jordie was Man of the Match for Leinster yesterday in the big European Cup QF win against Glasgow. He's not be used every game so he's had some rest time. He will be available for the AB tests and, if fit will be, the starting 12.

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