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All Blacks 2025

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  • D DaGrubster

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @DaGrubster

    They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

    They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

    I dont underestimate them.

    But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @DaGrubster

    They were missing a bunch of their best players against England including Albernoz. It was effectively a couple of development games for them.

    They beat the Lion's a month ago. They beat the Springboks September last year in Argentina. They beat us in Wellington. They shouldn't be underestimated.

    I dont underestimate them.

    But England beat them twice without their 10 best players

    Contempomi rested more than 10 players from the England series:

    Gonzalo García, Tomás Albornoz, Joaquín Oviedo, Franco Molina, Joel Sclavi, Mateo Carreras, Bautista Delguy, Juan Cruz Mallía, Santiago Chocobares, Efraín Elías, Guido Petti, Gerónimo Prisciantelli, Ignacio Calles, Eduardo Bello, Ignacio Ruiz, Marcos Kremer.

    Not suggesting that they had more firepower out than England, but it was far from a full-strength team.

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      On the Fainga'anuku sitch:

      New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.

      So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.

      http://thepost.co.nz/sport/360765638/why-returning-all-black-leicester-faingaanuku-unlikely-be-picked-rugby-championship

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      • M Mr Fish

        On the Fainga'anuku sitch:

        New Zealand Rugby has told The Post that Fainga’anuku isn’t available for the Rugby Championship, due to the amount of time he has spent away from New Zealand and the fact that he was only 24 years old when he took up the contract with Toulon. NZ Rugby requires players to have built up a record of long service before they can go overseas and immediately come back into the All Blacks frame upon returning to New Zealand.

        So basically the policy is whatever they want it to be on the day.

        http://thepost.co.nz/sport/360765638/why-returning-all-black-leicester-faingaanuku-unlikely-be-picked-rugby-championship

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        @Mr-Fish Which is fine by me.

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          I think Hotham may go past ratima , to me it just looks like his execution is crisper .

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            Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

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              The 4-4-4 Plan.

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                Rugby Pass is reporting that Leicester won't get an exemption for TRC unless we are decimated by injuries

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                  From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                  Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

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                    Christie might be viewed as the safe option, given his experience but it’d be a wasted selection. He won’t be at the World Cup, he’ll come off the bench and add nothing and there’s an opportunity here to see what other players have to offer if they get an opportunity.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                      Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                      From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                      Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

                      Send Fakatava. I want to see what impact he can bring off the bench

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                      • H hikastags

                        Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

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                        @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                        The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                          The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

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                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                          The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

                          At least as good as the coaching in Ireland.

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                          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                            The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

                            At least as good as the coaching in Ireland.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                            The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

                            At least as good as the coaching in Ireland.

                            Maybe better mate

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

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                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Reckon Argentina would be a great destination to watch the ABs. Red wine, steak, charming human beings - would be amazing tour

                              We went 2 years ago, AB’s test in BA, spent a week there

                              Ate our body weights in beef, drank all the wine.

                              People were amazing.

                              Couldn’t recommend more highly

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                              • H hikastags

                                Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

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                                @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                Looked nothing of the sort for the Barbarians vs the Boks at centre and would do nothing for the ABs team speed at wing.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                  Looked nothing of the sort for the Barbarians vs the Boks at centre and would do nothing for the ABs team speed at wing.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                  Looked nothing of the sort for the Barbarians vs the Boks at centre and would do nothing for the ABs team speed at wing.

                                  I don't like the idea of anointing this guy as a saviour just yet. He should have to earn it like everyone else

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                    Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                    Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

                                    Hope they'll go for Fakatava in the 23 but think Christie will be in the squad on the "known quantity" theory.

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                      Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

                                      Hope they'll go for Fakatava in the 23 but think Christie will be in the squad on the "known quantity" theory.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                      Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

                                      Hope they'll go for Fakatava in the 23 but think Christie will be in the squad on the "known quantity" theory.

                                      Na I don’t reckon.

                                      See Havili, David and Blackadder, Ethan.

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                        Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

                                        Hope they'll go for Fakatava in the 23 but think Christie will be in the squad on the "known quantity" theory.

                                        Na I don’t reckon.

                                        See Havili, David and Blackadder, Ethan.

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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        From what I heard from someone at the Waikato club final, it sounds like the ABs might need two new halfbacks for the Arg leg. Hotham had surgery and Ratima has a high ankle sprain so out for a few weeks.

                                        Roigard to play 80 mins, but who will we see brought into the squad? Christie, Fakatava, Roe and Preston are all possibilities.

                                        Hope they'll go for Fakatava in the 23 but think Christie will be in the squad on the "known quantity" theory.

                                        Na I don’t reckon.

                                        See Havili, David and Blackadder, Ethan.

                                        I think they’ll likely bring in Fakatava, Roe or Preston. Christie is heading off so doubt it will be him.

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                                          I realise he's a midget in the modern game, but I was routinely impressed by Roe's game this year in SR. Well rounded skillset with good decision making.

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