All Blacks 2025
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
I realise he's a midget in the modern game
In what way? Excluding Roigard, Roe is slightly lighter than Ratima and Hotham but a similar height. Christie seems to be the midget amongst them.
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I remember JGP playing for the Blues and he was a bit of a talent. Pretty similar to some of the back up options to Roigard we have now.
How did JGP get so good? He wasn't close to the player he is now. Are we not capable of developing our players to the same level?
His top two inches went next level while he was over there. I don't recall him having the same level of kicking game.
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@brodean perhaps we've actually exported our best IP - talented coaches have limited opportunities in a shallow pond and hence earning potential.
There's a great correlation in the improvement of the NH with the increase in players and coaches taking career prospects available to them OS.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
The slower tempo of the game in Ireland and more structured approach has suited JGP's game.
Yeah that's simply it, he's an excellent structure player, takes great options on the quick ruck, inside channel off loading style game. Wasn't really suited to the free flowing super rugby style a decade or so ago.
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The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.
If you didn't watch any of his 40+ games for Toulon then just say so.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.
If you didn't watch any of his 40+ games for Toulon then just say so.
How does that affect my point?
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.
If you didn't watch any of his 40+ games for Toulon then just say so.
Yep I watched a lot of them the ones I watched he was very good at centre,It will be interesting where he ends up wing or centre for both the Crusaders and ABs.
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Probably all been discussed already but I have been slack on the forum lately.
Latest reports are Lomax had hand surgery and will miss the 2 tests against Argentina.
Beaudy(Broken hand) and Scott Barrett(torn calf) should be on track for test 1 of the rugby championship.
Noah Hotham has had ankle surgery and will be out for up to 8 weeks.
Luke Jacobson a thigh injury and out for 5 weeks.
Sititi should be back in around 3 weeks.
Vai’i should return in 2 weeks from concussion.
Clarke likely to be out 6 weeks
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How does that affect my point?
Because he's obviously improved and continuing to improve... He's been incredible at Toulon. Still only 25 y/o and was ahead of our current crop of wings when he left.
I just think he should be there as soon as he's able. Unless he stinks up the joint for Ta$man, which I highly doubt.
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I like forward to seeing Super Leicester in the NPC, surely, since he made the Top14 his bitch, he will top all the relevant stats, most tries, most running metres, most rucks won, most walking on water, most turning water into wine, most tackles, most lineout wins.
Luckily the Magpies don't play Ta$man this year so I wont have the pain of seeing him run in 6 tries against us.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
How does that affect my point?
He's been incredible at Toulon.
Incredible is stretching it a bit. Done okay is closer to the mark IMHO.
I think we'll see Leicester F against Australia and on the EOYT tour once he's settled back into NZ Rugby. No need to rush him back against Argentina or South Africa.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
How does that affect my point?
Because he's obviously improved and continuing to improve... He's been incredible at Toulon.
So the coaching in France is amazing.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
How does that affect my point?
He's been incredible at Toulon.
Incredible is stretching it a bit. Done okay is closing to the mark IMHO.
I disagree. He was nominated for Midfielder of the year and probably would have won if Sireli Maqala didn't carry Bayonne to the semi-finals.
He will have huge offers to return to France post-2027.
