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All Blacks 2025

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  • BonesB Bones

    Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

    What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

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    @Bones I can see what you're saying. But don't you think Leicester won't see much of the ball?

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      I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.

      Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.

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      • BonesB Bones

        Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

        What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

        What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

        Pffft, don’t even need LF.

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        • M Mr Fish

          @Bones know you're being facetious but that's sort of my point. Wing isn't anywhere near as specialised a position as halfback. We know what Carter can do on the wing so if Razor's want a 6/2 bench option and sees Carter as a potential asset in that from then he should be encouraging him to play halfback now.

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          Bones
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          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Bones know you're being facetious but that's sort of my point. Wing isn't anywhere near as specialised a position as halfback. We know what Carter can do on the wing so if Razor's want a 6/2 bench option and sees Carter as a potential asset in that from then he should be encouraging him to play halfback now.

          If a number 8 can make the late switch to halfback and become I world cup winner, it can't be that specialised.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @Bones I can see what you're saying. But don't you think Leicester won't see much of the ball?

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            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bones I can see what you're saying. But don't you think Leicester won't see much of the ball?

            Neither will the opposition

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            • Z zedsdeadbaby

              I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.

              Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.

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              Steven Harris
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              @zedsdeadbaby Grant Williams covers both wing and halfback for the Boks
              Leroy was primarily used as halfback cover for Bop last year , would start on the wing and then shift to 9 in the last 20
              Carter can play 9 and offers something completely different with his pace

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                Plenty of halfbacks have ended up on the wing in games, the latest being McDermott in Melbourne. I remember TJP doing it, and Ratima did that against the Force this year.

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                  Adam Lennox has also played a fairbit of wing and fullback for Taranaki and the Landers.

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                    Adam Lennox has also played a fairbit of wing and fullback for Taranaki and the Landers.

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                    @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Adam Lennox has also played a fairbit of wing and fullback for Taranaki and the Landers.

                    He actually does same for his club.

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                      Come on Damien, throw on a 9 shirt sometime.

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                        Not sure how I feel about the captain taking a sabbatical, but I guess the timing is spot on and if it works, great!

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Not sure how I feel about the captain taking a sabbatical, but I guess the timing is spot on and if it works, great!

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @Bones didn't Richie have a non-playing sabbatical?

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

                            What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

                            What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

                            For fucks sake, Bones, calm down

                            You'll be comparing these two to Cam Roigard next.

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                              @Bones didn't Richie have a non-playing sabbatical?

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones didn't Richie have a non-playing sabbatical?

                              He did, as did Codie Taylor for most of super just 2 years ago.

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                                Kirwan
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                                I don't mind players that have put in the time to the ABs getting a break. It's helps those players last longer and recover from all the contact.

                                But players like that Mounga and LF that leave early? They can fuck right off.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  I don't mind players that have put in the time to the ABs getting a break. It's helps those players last longer and recover from all the contact.

                                  But players like that Mounga and LF that leave early? They can fuck right off.

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                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  I don't mind players that have put in the time to the ABs getting a break. It's helps those players last longer and recover from all the contact.

                                  But players like that Mounga and LF that leave early? They can fuck right off.

                                  Faingaʻanuku has played a total of seven tests (two of which were against Namibia and Uruguay) and wasn't deemed good enough for the 23 in the World Cup semi-final or final before he left. Talk of him walking straight back into the squad doesn't sit right.

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                                  • Z zedsdeadbaby

                                    I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.

                                    Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.

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                                    @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.

                                    Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.

                                    The difference between a 6/2 split with Carter or a specialist halfback on the bench, given the current starting group, is really only whether or not Jordan stays at fullback or has to move to the wing if one of the starting wings is injured. If Carter starts on the wing and covers halfback from there, however, is where this could be handy, with a first-five/fullback and a midfield back on the bench.

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                                      Is it fair to say the French midfielders in the test series didn't produce anything special?

                                      How relevant is top14 form for midfielders?

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                                        Is it fair to say the French midfielders in the test series didn't produce anything special?

                                        How relevant is top14 form for midfielders?

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                                        Kirwan
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                                        @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Is it fair to say the French midfielders in the test series didn't produce anything special?

                                        How relevant is top14 form for midfielders?

                                        Well that does also need consider that the best players didn't travel.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Is it fair to say the French midfielders in the test series didn't produce anything special?

                                          How relevant is top14 form for midfielders?

                                          Well that does also need consider that the best players didn't travel.

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                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Is it fair to say the French midfielders in the test series didn't produce anything special?

                                          How relevant is top14 form for midfielders?

                                          Well that does also need consider that the best players didn't travel.

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Is it fair to say the French midfielders in the test series didn't produce anything special?

                                          How relevant is top14 form for midfielders?

                                          Well that does also need consider that the best players didn't travel.

                                          Not the very best but the best available. Fickou has a ton of experience and had been their best for a long time.

                                          And Gailleton is the new 'it' boy isn't he? He came off the bench in the ABs NH test last year.

                                          Barrasi played and he's a top guy.

                                          Seems Moefana and Danty was the only guys missing in the series out of the top guys.

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