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All Blacks 2025

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

    Is it safe to assume those that were named as “Unavailable due to injury” vs France will be straight back in the squad once healthy?

    Which was Aumua, Tu’ungafasi, Darry, Lakai & Perofeta.

    I think it's case by case

    Aumua I can see coming back in but I cannot see Perofeta coming in unless injury opens up a chance

    Yep, Love has taken Perofeta's spot with his ability to cover 10.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

    Is it safe to assume those that were named as “Unavailable due to injury” vs France will be straight back in the squad once healthy?

    Which was Aumua, Tu’ungafasi, Darry, Lakai & Perofeta.

    I think it's case by case

    Aumua I can see coming back in but I cannot see Perofeta coming in unless injury opens up a chance

    Yep, Love has taken Perofeta's spot with his ability to cover 10.

    Now he just needs a chance to play 10

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      All ABs should be playing NPC this weekend bar anyone carrying an injury. Play you lazy fucks, it's what you are paid to do. they've just had a fortnight off, and then it's another fortnight to the next test.

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

      All ABs should be playing NPC this weekend bar anyone carrying an injury. Play you lazy fucks, it's what you are paid to do.

      The irony is that their PUs get NZR money when the ABs can't play in the NPC due to AB commitments.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

        All ABs should be playing NPC this weekend bar anyone carrying an injury. Play you lazy fucks, it's what you are paid to do.

        The irony is that their PUs get NZR money when the ABs can't play in the NPC due to AB commitments.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

        All ABs should be playing NPC this weekend bar anyone carrying an injury. Play you lazy fucks, it's what you are paid to do.

        The irony is that their PUs get NZR money when the ABs can't play in the NPC due to AB commitments.

        That's clearly a system designed to get the best players out there at all times.

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        • B brodean

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

          @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

          Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

          He was pants against Lions.

          I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.

          Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.

          Hold on.

          Leicester didn't play the Lions

          He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians

          It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions

          That's true. There wasn't anything compelling in his play against the Boks at 13.

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          Leicester didn't play the Lions

          He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians

          It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions

          That's true. There wasn't anything compelling in his play against the Boks at 13.

          You’re right. He was average. Though I don’t think a one-off game with a make-shift side put together on a weeks notice against the World Champs undoes all he did at Toulon.

          Caleb Clarke just put together a whole season of turgid rugby yet people want him to start. Leicester was better than Clarke when he left.

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            Leicester didn't play the Lions

            He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians

            It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions

            That's true. There wasn't anything compelling in his play against the Boks at 13.

            You’re right. He was average. Though I don’t think a one-off game with a make-shift side put together on a weeks notice against the World Champs undoes all he did at Toulon.

            Caleb Clarke just put together a whole season of turgid rugby yet people want him to start. Leicester was better than Clarke when he left.

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            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

            Leicester didn't play the Lions

            He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians

            It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions

            That's true. There wasn't anything compelling in his play against the Boks at 13.

            You’re right. He was average. Though I don’t think a one-off game with a make-shift side put together on a weeks notice against the World Champs undoes all he did at Toulon.

            Caleb Clarke just put together a whole season of turgid rugby yet people want him to start. Leicester was better than Clarke when he left.

            Look I agree that little can be made out of an end of season Barbarians match. The match didn't advocate for or against Fainga'anuku and should be ignored.

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              Stuff article posted this morning suggests Scott Barrett is likely to miss the 2026 SR season with his sabbatical. Apparently it’s not a sabbatical where he can play for an overseas club.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360772965/why-all-blacks-captain-scott-barrett-will-likely-have-sabbatical-2026

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                Stuff article posted this morning suggests Scott Barrett is likely to miss the 2026 SR season with his sabbatical. Apparently it’s not a sabbatical where he can play for an overseas club.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360772965/why-all-blacks-captain-scott-barrett-will-likely-have-sabbatical-2026

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                @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                Stuff article posted this morning suggests Scott Barrett is likely to miss the 2026 SR season with his sabbatical. Apparently it’s not a sabbatical where he can play for an overseas club.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360772965/why-all-blacks-captain-scott-barrett-will-likely-have-sabbatical-2026

                So a bit like Taylors one a couple of years back? Wouldn't be a bad idea.

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                • WurzelW Wurzel

                  I need a Simon Parker ETA

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                  @Wurzel Parker will be given 40 minutes for the Taniwha this weekend and 60 minutes against Southland in Round 2 and will be then added to the All Blacks squad

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                    Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
                    Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .

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                      Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

                      What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

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                      • S Steven Harris

                        Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
                        Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .

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                        @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
                        Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .

                        I'm not against this in principal but if Carter is to be selected as genuine halfback cover for the All Blacks then he needs to be playing halfback at Super level (or for BOP at the very least).

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                        • M Mr Fish

                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
                          Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .

                          I'm not against this in principal but if Carter is to be selected as genuine halfback cover for the All Blacks then he needs to be playing halfback at Super level (or for BOP at the very least).

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                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
                          Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .

                          I'm not against this in principal but if Carter is to be selected as genuine halfback cover for the All Blacks then he needs to be playing halfback at Super level (or for BOP at the very least).

                          To be fair....Jordie wasn't playing wing at SR level when he was deemed one for the ABs 😬

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Would love to see Leroy Carter selected as a wing and halfback cover great option for a 6-2 bench split
                            Did a great job for Bay of Plenty last year , it’s not as if the options under Hotham are jumping out at us .

                            I'm not against this in principal but if Carter is to be selected as genuine halfback cover for the All Blacks then he needs to be playing halfback at Super level (or for BOP at the very least).

                            To be fair....Jordie wasn't playing wing at SR level when he was deemed one for the ABs 😬

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                            @Bones know you're being facetious but that's sort of my point. Wing isn't anywhere near as specialised a position as halfback. We know what Carter can do on the wing so if Razor's want a 6/2 bench option and sees Carter as a potential asset in that from then he should be encouraging him to play halfback now.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

                              What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

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                              @Bones I can see what you're saying. But don't you think Leicester won't see much of the ball?

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                                I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.

                                Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

                                  What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Can't wait until we can roll out a starting side of just Faingaanuku and Higgins and annihilate every other side. Should save NZR a fair bit of money too.

                                  What with LF being incredible in a long, turgid competition and Higgins having fixed the hole in the ozone at age group level, AB rugby is safe for many years to come.

                                  Pffft, don’t even need LF.

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                                  • M Mr Fish

                                    @Bones know you're being facetious but that's sort of my point. Wing isn't anywhere near as specialised a position as halfback. We know what Carter can do on the wing so if Razor's want a 6/2 bench option and sees Carter as a potential asset in that from then he should be encouraging him to play halfback now.

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                                    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Bones know you're being facetious but that's sort of my point. Wing isn't anywhere near as specialised a position as halfback. We know what Carter can do on the wing so if Razor's want a 6/2 bench option and sees Carter as a potential asset in that from then he should be encouraging him to play halfback now.

                                    If a number 8 can make the late switch to halfback and become I world cup winner, it can't be that specialised.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @Bones I can see what you're saying. But don't you think Leicester won't see much of the ball?

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Bones I can see what you're saying. But don't you think Leicester won't see much of the ball?

                                      Neither will the opposition

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                                      • Z zedsdeadbaby

                                        I was actually going to float the Carter as a wing/halfback option last night - this tour seems like the perfect place to do it.

                                        Frankly I’m not convinced by Roe or any of the other options so why not take a little bit of a risk.

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                                        @zedsdeadbaby Grant Williams covers both wing and halfback for the Boks
                                        Leroy was primarily used as halfback cover for Bop last year , would start on the wing and then shift to 9 in the last 20
                                        Carter can play 9 and offers something completely different with his pace

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                                          Plenty of halfbacks have ended up on the wing in games, the latest being McDermott in Melbourne. I remember TJP doing it, and Ratima did that against the Force this year.

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