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    #1000

    My backline assuming fitness for Boks
    9. Roigard (but will be Christie)
    10. Love
    11. Clarke
    12. Jordie.
    13 Ioane (wing cover) stop gap 13
    14 Carter
    15. Jordan

    Bench backs - Preston, Tupaea. DMac

    Beauden dropped, Proctor dropped.

    Jason Holland fired.

    Love brings new chemistry and energy to a stale backline.

    If squad rules don't allow more changes, secretly kneecap a couple of players to bring a semi fit Tangitau in.

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    For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.

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    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.

    That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.

    Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.

    Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.

    The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.

    It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.

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    #1003

    @Donsteppa I was thinking Jeff Wilson......

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.

    That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.

    Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.

    Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.

    The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.

    It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.

    If only Ma'a would stop playing and start criticising...

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    #1005

    Morning.
    Still frustrated about this. I'd taken the win for granted. We got wasted. Ref was fine.
    Please Razor make the tough calls
    Roigard-DMac-Jordan-JB-Proctor-Clarke-Love just do it.
    Savea or Sititi(C)
    Forwards are fine. Get SB firing on all cylinders.

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    If you're one of the assistant coaches responsible for picking 3 or 4 players, why stick your neck and pick young guys. Pick the experience so you don't get fired

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    #1007

    Yep the Head Coach needs to be the Head Coach.

    He's responsible for the team culture, strategy, the game plan and selection.

    The buck stops with him. No more hiding behind the assistants.

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    game_film
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    @sparky Played great when he came off the bench last year. First test Vs England but I might be wrong

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.

    You just advocated for DMac...

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    #1011

    ABs got took. Previous Argie defeats you’d think’ ‘how the hell…’ but last night they just got flat out took.

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    The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.

    And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful. 🤮

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.

    He might have a few other issues but you can see why they at least wanted to have a look at Fihaki. He chases hard and his arial work with his size and athleticism is very good.

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    Was Scott Barrett actually the captain out there during the game? I noticed that often Ardie Savea was the one talking to the ref after penalties.

    S Barrett is a good player, but not sure why he is captain.

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    @gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.

    Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.

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    The penalty around 51:00 in was pretty poor. Backline breaking early from your own lineout. Seems like something that shouldn't happen 5 tests into a season ...

    Defence just generally poor. Little heat from the loose forwards.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.

    And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful. 🤮

    They’d have kittens if they logged onto the fern by the sound of it

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    @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

    Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

    Old school?

    NZR's relationship with the players was not good to put it mildly - money and marketing came before almost anything else.. And the treatment of the team management was simply appalling. Schmidt clearly had had enough.

    Might to a mini book review and post it somewhere.

    https://forum.silverfern.rugby/topic/267/tsf-book-club?_=1755991411219

    Done.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.

    Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.

    Scott Hansen is the coach, Razor looks at the 'bigger picture' - whatever you interpret that to mean.

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