All Blacks v Argentina II
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.
Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.
Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.
The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.
It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.
If only Ma'a would stop playing and start criticising...
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Morning.
Still frustrated about this. I'd taken the win for granted. We got wasted. Ref was fine.
Please Razor make the tough calls
Roigard-DMac-Jordan-JB-Proctor-Clarke-Love just do it.
Savea or Sititi(C)
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
You just advocated for DMac...
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The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.
And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
He might have a few other issues but you can see why they at least wanted to have a look at Fihaki. He chases hard and his arial work with his size and athleticism is very good.
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@gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.
Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.
And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful.
They’d have kittens if they logged onto the fern by the sound of it
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.
Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023
Old school?
NZR's relationship with the players was not good to put it mildly - money and marketing came before almost anything else.. And the treatment of the team management was simply appalling. Schmidt clearly had had enough.
Might to a mini book review and post it somewhere.
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/topic/267/tsf-book-club?_=1755991411219
Done.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.
Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.
Scott Hansen is the coach, Razor looks at the 'bigger picture' - whatever you interpret that to mean.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month
I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block against us whenever they play in NZ.
Oz won’t have a mental block with Schmidt coaching. Oz will be primed like Ireland in Chicago in 2016. Schmidt knows the AB players and will humanise them so the black jersey doesn’t intimidate and Eden Park becomes less imposing.
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@stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month
I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block against us whenever they play in NZ.
Oz won’t have a mental block with Schmidt coaching. Oz will be primed like Ireland in Chicago in 2016. Schmidt knows the AB players and will humanise them so the black jersey doesn’t intimidate and Eden Park becomes less imposing.
I hear the casinos and buffets in Auckland are just as distracting…..
Kaino to lock
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That was an absolute shit-fest of a game and it's quite remarkable a loyal journeyman like Finlay Christie stood out as a key player, but the question is this a one-off or are we taking one step forward, two steps sideways an one step back?
The discipline was bloody awful. Where was the leadership? Scooter is a great lock but I'm unconvinced by his leadership. Pretty hard for Robertson to sack his captaincy and he not the only leader on the field, but there needs to be some discussions.
I really like Robertson sticking with new players for more than 1 or two Tests but the backline just isn't functioning. Either sort it out or get someone in who can - they've had plenty of time.
Don't think there's any need to panic right now, things were/are def. going in the right direction but with too many bumps on the way. That said, any more games like that and the chopping block will need to be taken out of storage an NZR HQ.
