All Blacks v Argentina II
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@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.
Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.
Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.
The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.
It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.
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Is it bad that I saw the Favourite Comedians thread title pop up, and instantly thought "Scott Robertson"....
@Donsteppa I was thinking Jeff Wilson......
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.
Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.
Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.
The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.
It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
That Breakdown show is a national disgrace and everyone involved in it should be ashamed. Utterly ashamed.
Week after week, a panel of uncritical, naive cheerleaders are wheeled out to compete about who can read out talking points their pals in the All Blacks coaching set up have given them in the most gormless manner.
Week after week, they talk up the current All Balcks as if they are a mixture between the Harlem Globetrotters and the 1924-5 Invincibles.
The Aotearoa Rugby pod is little better. The same with the NZ Rugby press.
It's high time the coaches and the senior player got used to a bit of criticism again.
If only Ma'a would stop playing and start criticising...
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Morning.
Still frustrated about this. I'd taken the win for granted. We got wasted. Ref was fine.
Please Razor make the tough calls
Roigard-DMac-Jordan-JB-Proctor-Clarke-Love just do it.
Savea or Sititi(C)
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Other than to appease the marketing men and to keep his other family members happy, why on earth are we persisting with Beauden Barrett in the All Blacks 10 jersey?
I can't remember the last time he played well in the 10 jersey for the ABs. Certainly not this year and not last year either.
Other options at First Five are available.
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For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
You just advocated for DMac...
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The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.
And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful. 🤮
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For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
For those advocating Carter (and to a lesser extent Narawa), they were the two Chiefs wingers who were part of their back 3 being badly outplayed in the air and losing the super final.
He might have a few other issues but you can see why they at least wanted to have a look at Fihaki. He chases hard and his arial work with his size and athleticism is very good.
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Something rotten in the selecting, coaching, and preparation.
Farming out selection to each assistant is a pussy head coach move. Man up Razor, this is your team.
This idea of selection by each assistant only works if the team has a clear approach to play that is agreed upon and acted upon from top to bottom. This team does not have that.
Change is needed - if it isn' players, sack some coaches. If Hansen is the main man in the backs, turn them all over to him and hold him responsible; equally the same goes for Holland. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say, and it tastes like shit.
You've got guys playing significantly worse in the Black jersey than they were a month ago in Super (or European) rugby. That's on coaching and preparation and I doubt that these guys can figure out why because they dumped the previous admin on mass, so there is little institutional knowledge to provide guidance on where things are going wrong.
Assuming that a coach won't get sacked, then the coaches have to show that they have the balls to dump senior players right now. If they believe they have the right game plan and can prepare players appropriately, dump these guys for poor performances and reward those who come in and play accurately.
@gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.
Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.
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The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.
And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful. 🤮
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
The segment I hate most on the Breakdown this year is when they invite the New Zealand public to vote on who the All Blacks should pick.
And then their panel of insiders condescendingly mock the great unwashed for not having the same opinions as the "experts". Just awful. 🤮
They’d have kittens if they logged onto the fern by the sound of it
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.
Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023
Old school?
NZR's relationship with the players was not good to put it mildly - money and marketing came before almost anything else.. And the treatment of the team management was simply appalling. Schmidt clearly had had enough.
Might to a mini book review and post it somewhere.
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/topic/267/tsf-book-club?_=1755991411219
@booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.
Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023
Old school?
NZR's relationship with the players was not good to put it mildly - money and marketing came before almost anything else.. And the treatment of the team management was simply appalling. Schmidt clearly had had enough.
Might to a mini book review and post it somewhere.
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/topic/267/tsf-book-club?_=1755991411219
Done.
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@gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.
Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@gt12 I don’t think that’s how it works though. Yes there is a bit more autonomy from the Assistants in making their case for their respective areas, but there still needs to be Razor sign off. So I don’t think he’s phoning it in or abdicating his responsibility as head honcho.
Last week we found a way to lift and critical to that was possession. This week we didn’t value the ball and when you’re chasing it becomes both on impossible to do anything that can turn it.
Scott Hansen is the coach, Razor looks at the 'bigger picture' - whatever you interpret that to mean.
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@Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month
I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block against us whenever they play in NZ.
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Grooter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@WoodysRFC also need to hold onto our Eden park fortress streak which won't be easy we've got two Tests there next month
I will be very surprised if we even win one of the two games against SA. Really can't see it happening especially given who we have out. Will probably beat Australia at home and retain the Bledisloe as they seem to have a mental block against us whenever they play in NZ.
Oz won’t have a mental block with Schmidt coaching. Oz will be primed like Ireland in Chicago in 2016. Schmidt knows the AB players and will humanise them so the black jersey doesn’t intimidate and Eden Park becomes less imposing.
