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All Blacks 2025

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  • TimT Tim

    @stodders I would love a Schmidt/Cotter team. Maybe a cleanout of NZR management will lure Schmidt back?

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

    @stodders I would love a Schmidt/Cotter team. Maybe a cleanout of NZR management will lure Schmidt back?

    That has to be the hope. Can NZRU pay Mark Robinson off before October when Schmidt leaves the Wallabies? 😬

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      @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

      @stodders I would love a Schmidt/Cotter team. Maybe a cleanout of NZR management will lure Schmidt back?

      That has to be the hope. Can NZRU pay Mark Robinson off before October when Schmidt leaves the Wallabies? 😬

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      @stodders I dunno.

      Brown would be a great addition. Not Cotter as head coach, and not keen on Joseph for that role either.

      Now ... how about a foreign head coach?

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      • TimT Tim

        @stodders I dunno.

        Brown would be a great addition. Not Cotter as head coach, and not keen on Joseph for that role either.

        Now ... how about a foreign head coach?

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        @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

        @stodders I dunno.

        Brown would be a great addition. Not Cotter as head coach, and not keen on Joseph for that role either.

        Now ... how about a foreign head coach?

        It might blow out some of the arrogance in the upper echelons of NZ rugby. I think that may be a step too far though. A foreign assistant coach may be the best first step. Get the Toulouse attack coach 😂

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          Scott Robertson has been found out as a massive dud and should be relieved of his duties.

          Just pay the compensation and let him go.

          I'd approach Jamie Joseph and Vern Cotter to be the caretakers for the Bledisloe Cup, then Joe Schmidt as the new boss for the EOYT through to the World Cup campaign.

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          • TimT Tim

            @stodders I dunno.

            Brown would be a great addition. Not Cotter as head coach, and not keen on Joseph for that role either.

            Now ... how about a foreign head coach?

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

            @stodders I dunno.

            Brown would be a great addition. Not Cotter as head coach, and not keen on Joseph for that role either.

            Now ... how about a foreign head coach?

            Brown is going nowhere before 2027. After that, he will head back to NZ if wanted with a new management team at the helm. Robinson and team have done significant damage that will take time to repair.

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              @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

              @stodders I dunno.

              Brown would be a great addition. Not Cotter as head coach, and not keen on Joseph for that role either.

              Now ... how about a foreign head coach?

              It might blow out some of the arrogance in the upper echelons of NZ rugby. I think that may be a step too far though. A foreign assistant coach may be the best first step. Get the Toulouse attack coach 😂

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              @stodders There's got to be a defence coach we can get.

              Fuck me I am sick of hearing about how we are playing good defensive patterns when we regularly ship 30+.

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                @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                @stodders I dunno.

                Brown would be a great addition. Not Cotter as head coach, and not keen on Joseph for that role either.

                Now ... how about a foreign head coach?

                Brown is going nowhere before 2027. After that, he will head back to NZ if wanted with a new management team at the helm. Robinson and team have done significant damage that will take time to repair.

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                @stodders

                Dave Rennie is probably the best coach that we could get. He did get some good results with a patchy Australian squad.

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                  Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @stodders There's got to be a defence coach we can get.

                    Fuck me I am sick of hearing about how we are playing good defensive patterns when we regularly ship 30+.

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                    @Tim Steve Jackson from the Black Ferns or Jerome Kaino from Toulouse.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      Scott Robertson has been found out as a massive dud and should be relieved of his duties.

                      Just pay the compensation and let him go.

                      I'd approach Jamie Joseph and Vern Cotter to be the caretakers for the Bledisloe Cup, then Joe Schmidt as the new boss for the EOYT through to the World Cup campaign.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Scott Robertson has been found out as a massive dud and should be relieved of his duties.

                      Just pay the compensation and let him go.

                      I'd approach Jamie Joseph and Vern Cotter to be the caretakers for the Bledisloe Cup, then Joe Schmidt as the new boss for the EOYT through to the World Cup campaign.

                      It isn’t so much his fault as it is Mark Robinson and the panel that selected him. They got swept up by populism, which is not something NZRU was known for. They decided to split from the continuity process put in place since Henry, but the reality was they have most of the team they needed already there (Ryan and Schmidt). They just needed to select the right head coach rather than change it all completely.

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

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                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

                        He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

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                          @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

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                            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

                            He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

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                            @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

                            He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

                            And is he not stepping down due to family commitments?

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

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                              @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                              Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

                                He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

                                And is he not stepping down due to family commitments?

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                                @MiketheSnow The All Blacks is our family.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

                                  Technical advisor for the ABs would be great for Schmidt. Or skills coach. He wouldn’t need to travel so much. ABs need someone to take over from Wayne Smith in the innovation stakes. Could do a lot worse than Schmidt. He creates high performing environments. Maybe Director of NZ Rugby?

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                                    Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

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                                    @sparky I'll be happy to see him and Cotter coach the Blues. No chance to get selected anyway, so our best players will go overseas.

                                    Thanks NZR. Fuck you.

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                                    • S stodders

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

                                      Technical advisor for the ABs would be great for Schmidt. Or skills coach. He wouldn’t need to travel so much. ABs need someone to take over from Wayne Smith in the innovation stakes. Could do a lot worse than Schmidt. He creates high performing environments. Maybe Director of NZ Rugby?

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                                      @stodders Best case scenario is that he works with David Kirk in some capacity.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                                        Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                                        Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

                                        Is it Kiss or Fisher?

                                        Schmidt needs to be involved in NZ rugby in any way they can. Director of Rugby, Head of Performance, Skills coach, coaching mentor, technical advisor - none of these roles require copious amounts of travelling that would suit Schmidt.

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                                          Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

                                          Is it Kiss or Fisher?

                                          Schmidt needs to be involved in NZ rugby in any way they can. Director of Rugby, Head of Performance, Skills coach, coaching mentor, technical advisor - none of these roles require copious amounts of travelling that would suit Schmidt.

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                                          @stodders Kiss is new head coach.

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