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All Blacks 2025

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  • sparkyS sparky

    Scott Robertson has been found out as a massive dud and should be relieved of his duties.

    Just pay the compensation and let him go.

    I'd approach Jamie Joseph and Vern Cotter to be the caretakers for the Bledisloe Cup, then Joe Schmidt as the new boss for the EOYT through to the World Cup campaign.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Scott Robertson has been found out as a massive dud and should be relieved of his duties.

    Just pay the compensation and let him go.

    I'd approach Jamie Joseph and Vern Cotter to be the caretakers for the Bledisloe Cup, then Joe Schmidt as the new boss for the EOYT through to the World Cup campaign.

    It isn’t so much his fault as it is Mark Robinson and the panel that selected him. They got swept up by populism, which is not something NZRU was known for. They decided to split from the continuity process put in place since Henry, but the reality was they have most of the team they needed already there (Ryan and Schmidt). They just needed to select the right head coach rather than change it all completely.

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

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      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

      Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

      He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

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        @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

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          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

          Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

          He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

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          @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

          Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

          He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

          And is he not stepping down due to family commitments?

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

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            @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

            Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

              Why would Schmidt leave Australia?

              He’s stepping down. Laurie Fisher is taking over after the RC.

              And is he not stepping down due to family commitments?

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              @MiketheSnow The All Blacks is our family.

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              • TimT Tim

                @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

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                @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

                Technical advisor for the ABs would be great for Schmidt. Or skills coach. He wouldn’t need to travel so much. ABs need someone to take over from Wayne Smith in the innovation stakes. Could do a lot worse than Schmidt. He creates high performing environments. Maybe Director of NZ Rugby?

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                  Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

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                  @sparky I'll be happy to see him and Cotter coach the Blues. No chance to get selected anyway, so our best players will go overseas.

                  Thanks NZR. Fuck you.

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                  • S stodders

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

                    Technical advisor for the ABs would be great for Schmidt. Or skills coach. He wouldn’t need to travel so much. ABs need someone to take over from Wayne Smith in the innovation stakes. Could do a lot worse than Schmidt. He creates high performing environments. Maybe Director of NZ Rugby?

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                    @stodders Best case scenario is that he works with David Kirk in some capacity.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                      Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                      Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

                      Is it Kiss or Fisher?

                      Schmidt needs to be involved in NZ rugby in any way they can. Director of Rugby, Head of Performance, Skills coach, coaching mentor, technical advisor - none of these roles require copious amounts of travelling that would suit Schmidt.

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                        Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

                        Is it Kiss or Fisher?

                        Schmidt needs to be involved in NZ rugby in any way they can. Director of Rugby, Head of Performance, Skills coach, coaching mentor, technical advisor - none of these roles require copious amounts of travelling that would suit Schmidt.

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                        @stodders Kiss is new head coach.

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                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @MiketheSnow He's leaving Australia at the end of the Rugby Championship and Les Kiss will take over as Wallabies job.

                          Joe Schmidt is going to be living back in NZ. Whether he would take the AB's Head Coaching job, given personal matters, is not certain.

                          Is it Kiss or Fisher?

                          Schmidt needs to be involved in NZ rugby in any way they can. Director of Rugby, Head of Performance, Skills coach, coaching mentor, technical advisor - none of these roles require copious amounts of travelling that would suit Schmidt.

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                          @stodders Les Kiss.

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Kiss

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                            This is how Rieko Ioane played at the 2023 World Cup on attack (under Schmidt). He was bloody good:

                            Now the shit coaches have him out of form on attack. He is still our best defensive back by far though, and dropping him for Proctor was moronic. He was our best player against Ireland last year.

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                              Lovely break by Ioane in the France pool game too. Why can't we give one of the best players space anymore? Same rush defense

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                The thing that hasn't changed from the worst Foster period is that we are a bad performance every second game team. We have even worse losses now though.

                                I can't recall, but I thought we had a habit of starting poorly and coming back in the final quarter under foster? That final quarter under Robertson is the elephant in the room. So much for headspace.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                The thing that hasn't changed from the worst Foster period is that we are a bad performance every second game team. We have even worse losses now though.

                                I can't recall, but I thought we had a habit of starting poorly and coming back in the final quarter under foster? That final quarter under Robertson is the elephant in the room. So much for headspace.

                                We didn't panic in the last quarter though. We gave up.

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

                                  Technical advisor for the ABs would be great for Schmidt. Or skills coach. He wouldn’t need to travel so much. ABs need someone to take over from Wayne Smith in the innovation stakes. Could do a lot worse than Schmidt. He creates high performing environments. Maybe Director of NZ Rugby?

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                                  @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @MiketheSnow Always on a short contract. Has a seriously ill child he needs to be close too.

                                  Technical advisor for the ABs would be great for Schmidt. Or skills coach. He wouldn’t need to travel so much. ABs need someone to take over from Wayne Smith in the innovation stakes. Could do a lot worse than Schmidt. He creates high performing environments. Maybe Director of NZ Rugby?

                                  From his comments, that'd only happen if Scott Robertson had nothing to do with the All Blacks

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                                    Is Darry available for the next game? Would be an upgrade on the shit served up today.

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                                      Yeah Les Kiss.
                                      He was a great player, if you told me 40 years ago he was guna be the Wallabies coach, i'd a said you were crazy.
                                      Played for the defunct Valleys club too; same club as Wally Lewis..

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Is Darry available for the next game? Would be an upgrade on the shit served up today.

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Is Darry available for the next game? Would be an upgrade on the shit served up today.

                                        I think Va’ai and Holland are the starting locks. Patty T (when fit) is the impact lock (and brings leadership off the bench). That is tough on Scott Barrett, but he needs to work himself back into form and being a starter.

                                        Which means ABs need a new captain. And I’m not sure who that is. I don’t think it should be Savea, because again the coaches need to get the backrow balance right.

                                        Cody Taylor maybe in the interim? When fit, he’s a certain starter. If not Taylor, then who? Because there aren’t many players in the squad that scream certain starter and inspirational leader 🤔

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                                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Is Darry available for the next game? Would be an upgrade on the shit served up today.

                                          I think Va’ai and Holland are the starting locks. Patty T (when fit) is the impact lock (and brings leadership off the bench). That is tough on Scott Barrett, but he needs to work himself back into form and being a starter.

                                          Which means ABs need a new captain. And I’m not sure who that is. I don’t think it should be Savea, because again the coaches need to get the backrow balance right.

                                          Cody Taylor maybe in the interim? When fit, he’s a certain starter. If not Taylor, then who? Because there aren’t many players in the squad that scream certain starter and inspirational leader 🤔

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                                          @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Cody Taylor maybe in the interim

                                          Probably a good shout, and there are few other 1st choice players.

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