All Blacks 2025
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
How to (unknowingly) completely miss the point. in three. paragraphs...?
Let's not repeat what didn't work last time. Fix causes not symptoms. . .Make sure they stay fixed.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
How to (unknowingly) completely miss the point. in three. paragraphs...?
Let's not repeat what didn't work last time. Fix causes not symptoms. . .Make sure they stay fixed.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
How to (unknowingly) completely miss the point. in three. paragraphs...?
Let's not repeat what didn't work last time. Fix causes not symptoms. . .Make sure they stay fixed.
Is that you Hansen?
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I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
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I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
New Captain
New First Five
New Coach
New Assistants
New BoardBut none of those things will happen.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
That final quarter under Robertson is the elephant in the room. So much for headspace.
Indicates that our depth is worse, which is what you would expect from a coach that won't select forwards from the Blues.
Very disappointing to see that kind of prehistoric, parochial bigotry endorsed by NZR.
I don't really buy our depth is that bad.
Our tactics, selection and use of players is abysmal.
Agreed. The players are there. If they weren’t, ABs wouldn’t be winning at all.
This has similarities with Boks in 2017. The same players under a different coach won WC2019.
Robertson needs to be accountable. It is his mess. He needs to be given the chance to fix it. Bledisloe coming up. No pressure. Then the home nations away in November. He needs to win them all now to salvage the year and the ABs need to consistently perform in doing so. Nothing less is acceptable now.
Mark Robinson is leaving soon. If Robertson fails, then the ABs need to bring in a new brains trust like Henry/Hansen/Smith. Jamie Joseph and throw whatever at Joe Schmidt (his country needs him) as technical advisor (given he probably doesn’t want the role full time for family reasons). Not sure who the best attack coach is in NZ, but I do know Ronan O’Gara could be tempted south with the right offer.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Not sure who the best attack coach is in NZ, but I do know Ronan O’Gara could be tempted south with the right offer.
I wonder if O'Gara had a very important influence in the Crusaders, esp for the backs.
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We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid
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Has Razor lost the dressing room?
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Razor lost the dressing room?
Did he ever have it?
He owned the combing section.
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I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Cam Roigard
Good suggestion.
Seems too introverted and always injured.
But does seem one that would drive very high standards.I mean.......could it get any worse.
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Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
This has to be a troll.
Hell no.
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Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
Only if he takes us all on a journey.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Razor lost the dressing room?
Did he ever have it?
It's a fair question.
He's lucky he has the media and public wrapped around his finger. He has a great PR team.
I always wanted to like the guy, and still want us to turn it around, be that with him or someone else, but was put off from the beginning with that cringe 3 part doco with Jim Kayes, along with the breakdancing and things I mentioned earlier.
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Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
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Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
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@stodders He wouldn't be my choice .There were big problems behind the scenes in his previous tenure as All Blacks coach. The sponsors were unhappy. Graham Henry had a lot of crap to clean up in 2004.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders He wouldn't be my choice .There were big problems behind the scenes in his previous tenure as All Blacks coach. The sponsors were unhappy. Graham Henry had a lot of crap to clean up in 2004.
That was over 20 years ago. He has a lot of experience overseas now. And going on what I am reading about why some think Robertson is failing (lack of international experience), he fits the bill.
In truth, I’m not a Mitchell fan. Just found it interesting that he ticks certain boxes.
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