All Blacks 2025
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Sounding like a broken ankle for Noah Hotham. Ruled out for the rest of the rugby championship and potentially the end of year tour.
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Sounding like a broken ankle for Noah Hotham. Ruled out for the rest of the rugby championship and potentially the end of year tour.
@Landers92 Poor fella is having no luck with injuries, neither is Cam Roigard.
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Who are the loosies that everyone actually wants? Cause all I see is complaining and the only name tossed around is Dalton.
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
Who are the loosies that everyone actually wants? Cause all I see is complaining and the only name tossed around is Dalton.
I'd like to see Josh Beehre given a chance at 6. Simon Parker and Tupou Vaii are adequate and have potential. Hopefully one of those three will kick on, but I worry about the coaching.
Dalton Papalii is the best 7 in my opinion. Ardie can play there but needs to play closer to the ruck than he did on Saturday. Peter Lakai is a good reserve option at 7.
Lots of competition at Number 8: Ardie Savea, Wallace Sititi, Hoskins Sotutu , Christian Lio-Willie. All good players, but against the top opposition you probably can only have one of them on the field at a time.
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I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)
- Kyle Preston
- Ruben Love
- Leroy Carter
- Quinn Tupaea
- Leicester Fainga’anuku
- Will Jordan
- Jordie Barrett
Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.
@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)
- Kyle Preston
- Ruben Love
- Leroy Carter
- Quinn Tupaea
- Leicester Fainga’anuku
- Will Jordan
- Jordie Barrett
Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.
Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)
- Kyle Preston
- Ruben Love
- Leroy Carter
- Quinn Tupaea
- Leicester Fainga’anuku
- Will Jordan
- Jordie Barrett
Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.
Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d love Razor to just bite the bullet and chuck this backline out against the Wallabies (assuming Hotham is out injured again)
- Kyle Preston
- Ruben Love
- Leroy Carter
- Quinn Tupaea
- Leicester Fainga’anuku
- Will Jordan
- Jordie Barrett
Would like to see how Jordie would go at fullback.
Do people forget we saw how Jordie went as AB fullback? It wasn't good enough to keep him there. :confused_face:
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@george33 didn’t Razor say he’s eligible for selection now?
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@Nepia largely yes...but i also felt it was about the hole we had at 12 and we had other options at 15, i cant help but think i would have loved to see more of his big boot
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia largely yes...but i also felt it was about the hole we had at 12 and we had other options at 15, i cant help but think i would have loved to see more of his big boot
TBF, no point him having a big boot when the game plan is not to utilise it.
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I've said all along i think Parker is a bit passive, needs an edge to his game, and obviously we need to utilise our players better (he ain't the kind of player you want to station wide) and use ones that compliment each other rather than throw the balance out.
Leicester was called into the squad a couple of weeks back as injury cover, then released, but I think he can only rejoin the squad through injury now?
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I remember when NZ scribes wrote about the death of Bok rugby after the 57-0. Seems as if it is the Bok scribes turn now.
Not sure you can really argue with the article right now. NZ rugby is in a real hole (of its own making).
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
Very true, but he still shouldn't have been getting picked over Dalton.
his efforts in teh republic beg to differ. Will admit he probably wasn't suited to Bledisloe rugby though, which is a completely different animal.
True that, he was very good against the boks. Not sure how a lack of pace would have gone in this last game though.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
Very true, but he still shouldn't have been getting picked over Dalton.
his efforts in teh republic beg to differ. Will admit he probably wasn't suited to Bledisloe rugby though, which is a completely different animal.
True that, he was very good against the boks. Not sure how a lack of pace would have gone in this last game
Was he good though?
The last 4 games he played against the Boks we lost. In one game he got a yellow and a record loss at the time as captain.
In another he got a red card.
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Cody Taylor should be made captain IMO. He’s the only guaranteed starter in the pack with the mana for others to follow.
Savea doesn’t need to start. A spell as the impact sub wouldn’t hurt. He can cover 7/8 , wing (where he spends most time) and midfield
Scott Barrett needs some time out. I think he is a brilliant lock forward on his day, but he looks weighed down by the pressure. When ABs conceded and were behind their posts, I saw a post on here showing that Jordie Barrett was revving the troops with Scott Barrett standing on the periphery. It may have been just a picture taken at specific moment, but it was telling. Too many lieutenants and no single powerful chief. ABs need a leader on the pitch, not just a captain.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
Very true, but he still shouldn't have been getting picked over Dalton.
his efforts in teh republic beg to differ. Will admit he probably wasn't suited to Bledisloe rugby though, which is a completely different animal.
True that, he was very good against the boks. Not sure how a lack of pace would have gone in this last game
Was he good though?
The last 4 games he played against the Boks we lost. In one game he got a yellow and a record loss at the time as captain.
In another he got a red card.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
Very true, but he still shouldn't have been getting picked over Dalton.
his efforts in teh republic beg to differ. Will admit he probably wasn't suited to Bledisloe rugby though, which is a completely different animal.
True that, he was very good against the boks. Not sure how a lack of pace would have gone in this last game
Was he good though?
The last 4 games he played against the Boks we lost. In one game he got a yellow and a record loss at the time as captain.
In another he got a red card.
We were talking about last year, the last 2 games, and yes he was.
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Cody Taylor should be made captain IMO. He’s the only guaranteed starter in the pack with the mana for others to follow.
Savea doesn’t need to start. A spell as the impact sub wouldn’t hurt. He can cover 7/8 , wing (where he spends most time) and midfield
Scott Barrett needs some time out. I think he is a brilliant lock forward on his day, but he looks weighed down by the pressure. When ABs conceded and were behind their posts, I saw a post on here showing that Jordie Barrett was revving the troops with Scott Barrett standing on the periphery. It may have been just a picture taken at specific moment, but it was telling. Too many lieutenants and no single powerful chief. ABs need a leader on the pitch, not just a captain.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Cody Taylor should be made captain IMO. He’s the only guaranteed starter in the pack with the mana for others to follow.
Savea doesn’t need to start. A spell as the impact sub wouldn’t hurt. He can cover 7/8 , wing (where he spends most time) and midfield
Scott Barrett needs some time out. I think he is a brilliant lock forward on his day, but he looks weighed down by the pressure. When ABs conceded and were behind their posts, I saw a post on here showing that Jordie Barrett was revving the troops with Scott Barrett standing on the periphery. It may have been just a picture taken at specific moment, but it was telling. Too many lieutenants and no single powerful chief. ABs need a leader on the pitch, not just a captain.
Not the first time one of his brothers was doing the talking in the huddle while he stood with his head down
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia largely yes...but i also felt it was about the hole we had at 12 and we had other options at 15, i cant help but think i would have loved to see more of his big boot
TBF, no point him having a big boot when the game plan is not to utilise it.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia largely yes...but i also felt it was about the hole we had at 12 and we had other options at 15, i cant help but think i would have loved to see more of his big boot
TBF, no point him having a big boot when the game plan is not to utilise it.
TBF, no point not selecting him either, if the game plan is not to have a game plan!
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I've said all along i think Parker is a bit passive, needs an edge to his game, and obviously we need to utilise our players better (he ain't the kind of player you want to station wide) and use ones that compliment each other rather than throw the balance out.
Leicester was called into the squad a couple of weeks back as injury cover, then released, but I think he can only rejoin the squad through injury now?
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I remember when NZ scribes wrote about the death of Bok rugby after the 57-0. Seems as if it is the Bok scribes turn now.
Not sure you can really argue with the article right now. NZ rugby is in a real hole (of its own making).
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